The rematch, Carl Froch - Mikkel Kessler 2 fight chat thread - Warriors Call !!!

[Vendettos]

Lets be realistic.

Since fight 1 Kessler has had 3 fight and the only half decent fighter he fought was Allen Green.

Froch has had 5 fight and the WORST he has fought is Yusif Mack.

So Froch has been the more productive, plus he seems to have found a mean streak and a sudden burst of power against world class fighters.

Froch was struggling for KOs at the top level, only managing to stop Jermaine Taylor, but look at the last 2 fights.

I think Froch stops him round 6-8.

[erics44]

Lets be realistic.

Since fight 1 Kessler has had 3 fight and the only half decent fighter he fought was Allen Green.

Froch has had 5 fight and the WORST he has fought is Yusif Mack.

So Froch has been the more productive, plus he seems to have found a mean streak and a sudden burst of power against world class fighters.

Froch was struggling for KOs at the top level, only managing to stop Jermaine Taylor, but look at the last 2 fights.

I think Froch stops him round 6-8.

froch always had power at the highest level he was just fighting people who dont get stopped

[ross]

Iv just rewatched the first fight and Froch lost it by not working enough. Kessler is consistant in his work rate and that will always be the difference. Kessler opens himself up to be hit more but thats because hes more active and took the initiative and had Froch on the backfoot for most of the fight.

He will outwork Froch again. Kessler isnt an untested weak chinned fighter like Bute and Mack. Iv said it before but his last 2 fights havent shown us anything we didnt already know, other than maybe prove that Bute was protected. Kessler fought Green where Green said he was comfortable and stronger, weight wise and then Magee who was on a good run of form but stopped him faster than anyone else could have, walked through him. Froch stopped Bute who had already been KO'd by Andrade and then fought a weight drained Mack.

Same outcome again, Kessler on points or maybe if Froch starts faster as I think he will, he will tire earlier and may get stopped. He did slow down in their last fight without being too agressive. If he starts faster here and slows down sooner and Kessler is still good to go he will be in trouble because Kessler will try and stop him.

[Fenster]

I don't think the form is as big a factor as the timing of the fight. Froch seems a much bigger character now he has some "star appeal," which he seems to revel in. Last time he was the "unknown" champion (it was on primetime for fucks sake) going to Kessler's backyard. This time it's got Sky behind it (as well as being shown on HBO) and is billed as the biggest fight in Britain this year. Add in home advantage and 20,000 fans.

Everything points to a Froch win.

So I backed Kessler at 2/1 ().

[beenKOed]

Iv just rewatched the first fight and Froch lost it by not working enough. Kessler is consistant in his work rate and that will always be the difference. Kessler opens himself up to be hit more but thats because hes more active and took the initiative and had Froch on the backfoot for most of the fight.

He will outwork Froch again. Kessler isnt an untested weak chinned fighter like Bute and Mack. Iv said it before but his last 2 fights havent shown us anything we didnt already know, other than maybe prove that Bute was protected. Kessler fought Green where Green said he was comfortable and stronger, weight wise and then Magee who was on a good run of form but stopped him faster than anyone else could have, walked through him. Froch stopped Bute who had already been KO'd by Andrade and then fought a weight drained Mack.

Same outcome again, Kessler on points or maybe if Froch starts faster as I think he will, he will tire earlier and may get stopped. He did slow down in their last fight without being too agressive. If he starts faster here and slows down sooner and Kessler is still good to go he will be in trouble because Kessler will try and stop him.

This fight is a hard one to call, both of these guys are fierce, tough competitors--some question Kessler's toughness but I don't--who always come expecting to win.
I can't pick a winner and like everyone else, I have been waiting and waiting. I'm looking forward to a hard fought battle.

[Kirkland Laing]

I think Kessler wins this on points but I'm going to predict that Froch gewts the decision.

[Master]

Now that you have convinced me that you are not Carl Froch Tam, will you be going to the fight or PPV to watch it?

[Tam Seddon]

Now that you have convinced me that you are not Carl Froch Tam, will you be going to the fight or PPV to watch it?

I wanted to go to the fight, but no joke I was asleep all day and the tickets sold out by the time I was up. I am just going to watch it with all of my uni mates, it's one of my last weekends in Leeds before I move home so it will be a special occasion!!

[Silkeyjoe]

Lets be realistic.

Since fight 1 Kessler has had 3 fight and the only half decent fighter he fought was Allen Green.

Froch has had 5 fight and the WORST he has fought is Yusif Mack.

So Froch has been the more productive, plus he seems to have found a mean streak and a sudden burst of power against world class fighters.

Froch was struggling for KOs at the top level, only managing to stop Jermaine Taylor, but look at the last 2 fights.

I think Froch stops him round 6-8.

Froch fought, an average Abraham, an old Johnson (only by MD) lost to Ward, KOed BUte and KOed Mack. Only think impressive there is the Bute win and in hindsite Bute was good but not that good. Mack is shit. What Froch has done, is not that impressive and if he wasnt English he wouldnt be getting this ridiculous hype.

[ross]

Lets be realistic.

Since fight 1 Kessler has had 3 fight and the only half decent fighter he fought was Allen Green.

Froch has had 5 fight and the WORST he has fought is Yusif Mack.

So Froch has been the more productive, plus he seems to have found a mean streak and a sudden burst of power against world class fighters.

Froch was struggling for KOs at the top level, only managing to stop Jermaine Taylor, but look at the last 2 fights.

I think Froch stops him round 6-8.

Froch fought, an average Abraham, an old Johnson (only by MD) lost to Ward, KOed BUte and KOed Mack. Only think impressive there is the Bute win and in hindsite Bute was good but not that good. Mack is shit. What Froch has done, is not that impressive and if he wasnt English he wouldnt be getting this ridiculous hype.

Abraham and Johnson are well suited to make Froch look good, both very pedestrian, one a one trick pony middle weight and one a weight drained light heavy in his forties.

[imp]

Lets be realistic.

Since fight 1 Kessler has had 3 fight and the only half decent fighter he fought was Allen Green.

Froch has had 5 fight and the WORST he has fought is Yusif Mack.

So Froch has been the more productive, plus he seems to have found a mean streak and a sudden burst of power against world class fighters.

Froch was struggling for KOs at the top level, only managing to stop Jermaine Taylor, but look at the last 2 fights.

I think Froch stops him round 6-8.

Froch fought, an average Abraham, an old Johnson (only by MD) lost to Ward, KOed BUte and KOed Mack. Only think impressive there is the Bute win and in hindsite Bute was good but not that good. Mack is shit. What Froch has done, is not that impressive and if he wasnt English he wouldnt be getting this ridiculous hype.

Bit harsh.

Bute was good..but unfortunately he ran into froch.

Hate when fighters get called overrated when another better fighter destroys them.

[Silkeyjoe]

Lets be realistic.

Since fight 1 Kessler has had 3 fight and the only half decent fighter he fought was Allen Green.

Froch has had 5 fight and the WORST he has fought is Yusif Mack.

So Froch has been the more productive, plus he seems to have found a mean streak and a sudden burst of power against world class fighters.

Froch was struggling for KOs at the top level, only managing to stop Jermaine Taylor, but look at the last 2 fights.

I think Froch stops him round 6-8.

Froch fought, an average Abraham, an old Johnson (only by MD) lost to Ward, KOed BUte and KOed Mack. Only think impressive there is the Bute win and in hindsite Bute was good but not that good. Mack is shit. What Froch has done, is not that impressive and if he wasnt English he wouldnt be getting this ridiculous hype.

Bit harsh.

Bute was good..but unfortunately he ran into froch.

Hate when fighters get called overrated when another better fighter destroys them.

Yea I hate that too. But Bute clearly was overrated, given his next performance against Grachev. Plus if Froch beats you in that fashion, you aint that good...FACT!

[thewhale]

Well is going to be electric tomorrow, I think Kessler will win this.

First of Kessler faced Froch last time after the beating and serious headbutt´s from Ward, I think that even without the headbutt´s Ward would have won that fight, I never seen Kessler been that bad prepared, he was all over the Danish media in the radio and TV and I think he lost focus.

Well Kessler fought imo bad against Froch last time, in a style you not would see from Kessler normaly ( see Andrade got picked time and time again, but with a equal slow Froch he missed a lot, I think it was due to the eye-problem he got from the Ward fight, so Kessler which is a very solid technical boxer( some say robotic) miss a slow Froch again and again, I believe he will not miss this time.

I think that Montoya has changed Kessler into a more aggresive fighter with new tricks, so I think Kessler will surprise a lot of people if you think it will be a even fight. Kessler could not match the workrate of Calzaghe or Ward, I don´t think that will be a issue with Froch this time either.

I think the Ward fight took a lot out of Kessler and we saw more of the warrier in front of his own crow, Kessler simply would give, eventhough Froch was hurting Kessler at times, but I don´t see the slip in Kessler as some say. I will agree that he had opponent that was cashcows for Saurland and Kessler. But Kessler is really fit and looks very ready and confident.

Well Froch may have a home advantage but if he tries to do the same gameplan as he did to Bute I think we will see a quick KO, but it will be Froch. I hope in the 3rd round, well heck I put 30pound on that at odds 85:1, will it is a long shot but I think the odds was to tempting. I do believe that Kessler will outbox Froch but I must admit froch has found a momentum that may prove to give Kessler some trouble, but I think he will handle it.

Anyway I wish all of us a great fight tomorrow

[superheavyrhun]

Good to read that the ringwalks are pretty late for this one...means I can watch the champions league final before the Boxing starts to get interesting.

[Rantcatrat]

Lets be realistic.

Since fight 1 Kessler has had 3 fight and the only half decent fighter he fought was Allen Green.

Froch has had 5 fight and the WORST he has fought is Yusif Mack.

So Froch has been the more productive, plus he seems to have found a mean streak and a sudden burst of power against world class fighters.

Froch was struggling for KOs at the top level, only managing to stop Jermaine Taylor, but look at the last 2 fights.

I think Froch stops him round 6-8.

Froch fought, an average Abraham, an old Johnson (only by MD) lost to Ward, KOed BUte and KOed Mack. Only think impressive there is the Bute win and in hindsite Bute was good but not that good. Mack is shit. What Froch has done, is not that impressive and if he wasnt English he wouldnt be getting this ridiculous hype.

Bit harsh.

Bute was good..but unfortunately he ran into froch.

Hate when fighters get called overrated when another better fighter destroys them.

Yea I hate that too. But Bute clearly was overrated, given his next performance against Grachev. Plus if Froch beats you in that fashion, you aint that good...FACT!

Just so in case you didn't know, Grachev went on to beat Erdei, after fighting Bute. And Bute might have been overrated, but he had beat Bika and Glen Johnson easy. I wouldn't diminish Froch's victory. It was a good one.