Kessler sparring Cleverly and Groves

[Master]

Wow Carl is behaving like a dick, Groves and Cleverley want to work with a quality fighter, get paid and gain some experience. I am sure he would have done the same in their position.

[ross]

Wow Carl is behaving like a dick, Groves and Cleverley want to work with a quality fighter, get paid and gain some experience. I am sure he would have done the same in their position.

Its always been bubbling under the surface with Carl. This is why hes never had the following that Hatton had. His work ethic deserves it but his attitude and personality just turns people off him big time.

It used to sound a hundred times worse when hed never even fought a ranked fighter.

Eddie Hearn must look at stuff like this and just put his head in his hands. All that good work hes done with Froch and something like this can just turn fans away from buying tickets. Someone whos struggling with money who was umming and ahhing about buying the fight or even going to it, Carl may just make their minds up for them with comments like this.

[Beanz]

Wow Carl is behaving like a dick, Groves and Cleverley want to work with a quality fighter, get paid and gain some experience. I am sure he would have done the same in their position.

Its always been bubbling under the surface with Carl. This is why hes never had the following that Hatton had. His work ethic deserves it but his attitude and personality just turns people off him big time.

It used to sound a hundred times worse when hed never even fought a ranked fighter.

Eddie Hearn must look at stuff like this and just put his head in his hands. All that good work hes done with Froch and something like this can just turn fans away from buying tickets. Someone whos struggling with money who was umming and ahhing about buying the fight or even going to it, Carl may just make their minds up for them with comments like this.

What are you talking about ? He has a point, I used to be a Groves fan but he is way too full of himself recently and I wouldn't trust Adam Booth as far as I could throw him. The guy comes across like a confidence trickster. He talks about all the improvements he sees in his fighters and then they come out and fight with the same glaring flaws as before. Booth tried to talk up Andy Lee's last fight and though understandable to a degree it was pretty shambolic. If Groves really saw himself as a Froch opponent the best thing he could do is take advantage of the opportunity to spar with him.

"all the good work Hearn has done with Froch" seriously the guy has just creamed the profits of someone else's work. Froch has earned his own reputation and most fans can respect that. You seem to be the one with something bubbling under the surface.

[Fenster]

Froch knocked Groves out in sparring a couple of years ago. DeGale taunted him about it in the build-up to their fight.

Froch sounding like a dick will not harm sales in anyway whatsoever. Expect more of this shit over the next week as they try and sell the PPV.

Hearn has done a great job for Froch.

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Wow Carl is behaving like a dick, Groves and Cleverley want to work with a quality fighter, get paid and gain some experience. I am sure he would have done the same in their position.

Its always been bubbling under the surface with Carl. This is why hes never had the following that Hatton had. His work ethic deserves it but his attitude and personality just turns people off him big time.

It used to sound a hundred times worse when hed never even fought a ranked fighter.

Eddie Hearn must look at stuff like this and just put his head in his hands. All that good work hes done with Froch and something like this can just turn fans away from buying tickets. Someone whos struggling with money who was umming and ahhing about buying the fight or even going to it, Carl may just make their minds up for them with comments like this.

What are you talking about ? He has a point, I used to be a Groves fan but he is way too full of himself recently and I wouldn't trust Adam Booth as far as I could throw him. The guy comes across like a confidence trickster. He talks about all the improvements he sees in his fighters and then they come out and fight with the same glaring flaws as before. Booth tried to talk up Andy Lee's last fight and though understandable to a degree it was pretty shambolic. If Groves really saw himself as a Froch opponent the best thing he could do is take advantage of the opportunity to spar with him.

"all the good work Hearn has done with Froch" seriously the guy has just creamed the profits of someone else's work. Froch has earned his own reputation and most fans can respect that. You seem to be the one with something bubbling under the surface.

This has nothing to do with Groves.

Its Froch thats crying about him. Groves has said nothing.

What is Groves supposed t do, phone and check with Carl each time someone wants to spar with him? Get fucking real! Its got fuck all to do with Carl! If Carl was that bothered he could have said to Groves "Sont go and spar with Kessler, spar with me and ill pay you more" but he hasnt, so he cant bitch about it.

For Froch to start spitting bile about Groves and how hes getting beaten up in sparring but what has Groves done or said to Carl? Nothing, all hes done is taken up an opportunity to further his career and Froch doesnt like it. Maybe he never got those same opportunities and hes just jealous?

[Beanz]

Yes I am sure that Carl Froch is jealous of George Groves When you call yourself St George and try to promote yourself as an English Icon then sparring with the enemy is traitorous and should be rewarded with a spell in the tower of London. If boxing was just about the man then I would be cheering for Kessler but it isn't so I will be cheering for Froch. C'mon England.

[0james0]

I wouldnt be surprised to see Froch stopped. Hes full of himself at the moment, that he is a god of war and is indestructable.

Dont forget, he got dropped hard by Taylor who is a middleweight andKessler has been looking powerfull, turning Greens lights out and stopping Magee early.

Kessler will fight a much tidier fight this time round and this will frustrate Froch. Froch is fighting at home and is finally being recognised and I think it will all go to his head on the night and come out likea steam train. He will not roll over Kessler who can match him punch for punch and hurt him as he did a couple of times last time, fighting Carls fight.

That's exactly what is worrying me. I hope he realises he's going into a war and he's not indestructible. If he goes into it like he did against Ward, too confident, he will get humbled.

Froch is a warrior though, so I'm sure when it gets going he'll kick into gear.

[Dia bando]

Wow Carl is behaving like a dick, Groves and Cleverley want to work with a quality fighter, get paid and gain some experience. I am sure he would have done the same in their position.

Carl Froch, is at it again, Groves and Cleverley can spar with who THEY like, stick to your
own career Carl, they don't tell you who you can spar with.!
What a stupid comment to make.!

[DavilaJones]

I don't know if he's serious or not but it seems to me just to be pre-fight hype to get people excited about it, as if we aren't already.

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Groves defending himself for sparring with Kessler. Says hes willng to step in, if either drops out.

Also says “I’ve sparred with both,” said the London fighter yesterday. “I sparred with Carl before his first fight with Kessler in 2010. I suppose I’ve had a better look at both of them than most have, and for me there’s a clear winner, but I’m afraid I can’t really share that. It wouldn’t be fair on the lads in the gym.”
“They are both really experienced now. It was a toe-to-toe fight the first time, but I think it’ll be a much more technical fight this time.”

I think hes on about Kessler winning and that he wants a fight with Froch soon because he believes he will beat him. It also makes me wonder whether he has openly said he will step in at short notice because he knows Kessler is injured...

George Groves defends sparring sessions with Mikkel Kessler after Carl Froch rebuke - Telegraph

[Master]

Ross you are reading too much into it.

[ross]

Ross you are reading too much into it.

Maybe and hopefully too. Itd be a bit gutting to get a nice fight like this and have either going in with an injury.

Have you seen the short documentary on Kessler leading up to the Beyer fight? He does seem really high strung about little niggles. Wants to be A1, although anyone would I spose but he does seem to get quite negative. This is when a good team around him that can reassure him is a must.

Mikkel Kessler Documentary - YouTube

[ross]

Froch has never gone out of his way to sell himself. Just seen the public training session he did in Nottingham in this link and they are saying theres hundreds around the ring. From what you can see in the camera, if we assume its like that all the way round, then youd be lucky to have 100 there. This is his home city, in the centre where thousands work and go to university. There shouldnt have been any floor space left!

Carl Froch predicts 'barbaric' rematch with Mikkel Kessler on Saturday | Froch v Kessler II | Sky Sports Boxing

[Tam Seddon]

Froch has never gone out of his way to sell himself. Just seen the public training session he did in Nottingham in this link and they are saying theres hundreds around the ring. From what you can see in the camera, if we assume its like that all the way round, then youd be lucky to have 100 there. This is his home city, in the centre where thousands work and go to university. There shouldnt have been any floor space left!

Carl Froch predicts 'barbaric' rematch with Mikkel Kessler on Saturday | Froch v Kessler II | Sky Sports Boxing

Bare in mind when Froch was doing that interview the session had finished, why would people wait around simply just to look at Froch?

[ross]

Ok, imagine it was Ricky Hatton...

He was still present and again, its his own hometown. You could understand if it was in America.

If that was Kessler in Copenhagen it would be mobbed.