Scientific Fraud

[CFH]

I've seen you say this dozens of times and, frankly, it is beyond myopic.

I don't give two shits about Al Gore or about your views on global warming are, but does it not occur to you that perhaps Al Gore feels that by flying to various lectures around the world and by getting his perspectives broadcast to as many people as possible that he can have a potentially massive impact on the way people live their lives and thus reduce emissions on a scale that makes his contribution to this problem negligible?

It's a completely reasonable position for him to have and only someone who was completely bereft of the ability to think even semi-critically would not understand it.

Why doesn't Al Gore use his greatest invention The Internet to reach more people.....wouldn't that be more "green"?


CFH, that's fine, you have every right to not care about my views on Global Warming or Al Gore or anything, but you don't have to read my opinions either, I'm certainly not forcing anyone to.


I just find it odd, especially for people who claim to love science so fucking much for them to basically claim that if everyone just walked to work and there were no cars, no factories, no carbon emissions at all that there would be no such storms as the one that hit Oklahoma......on second thought I don't find that odd, I find that idiotic.... incredibly so. And why would I bring that up? Well because right after that tornado touched down I mean RIGHT AFTER there was this little gem in DC...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se3d9--KZe0

To which I say, BULL CRAP!

As far as I know, Al Gore does use the internet to spread his views. He just also uses other means as well because he obviously feels so strongly about it. I simply don't see any hypocrisy in his actions.

[El Kabong]

As far as I know, Al Gore does use the internet to spread his views. He just also uses other means as well because he obviously feels so strongly about it. I simply don't see any hypocrisy in his actions.

Sun News : Al Gore, carbon hypocrite

Added to which Gore owns the company he purchases his "Carbon Offsets" from....so when he pays for his indulgences he pays HIMSELF and when everyone else stupid enough to pay for their indulgences buy their "carbon offsets" they pay Al Gore as well....I hope this helps you on your journey to reality, learning that Al Gore is a fat stupid hypocrite that made the majority of his money from selling his TV network to Al Jazeera which is owned by the Qatari Royal Family who made their millions selling.....selling....anyone have the answer?? OIL!!!...yes no hypocrisy at all there

[Beanz]

You do have a point. Al Gore is a humongous twat. Global warming is real though and him being a twat does nothing to make that any less of a reality.

[El Kabong]

You do have a point. Al Gore is a humongous twat. Global warming is real though and him being a twat does nothing to make that any less of a reality.

Because the large majority of the effete douchebags who preach all this global warming bullshit are wealthy bastards flying in private jets and living luxurious lifestyles while telling Joe Sixpack who lives paycheck to paycheck and works construction "Ooooh, you really shouldn't have a pickup truck because those are bad on gas mileage".....you know, fuck those dudes, those sanctimonious "do as I say not as I do" motherfuckers, I MIGHT listen to them more if they would lead by example rather than by brow beating people who are just trying to live normal lives.

I just find the whole Anthropogenic Global Warming deal to be smug and up its own ass to the point where I have not and will not ever take them seriously....sorry, if the Earth is doomed due to carbon emissions then fuck it we're doomed, we can only be in so much danger for so long until this cause starts losing its edge. If the Earth is going to burst into flames because I bought a steak (the Greenies think cow farms contribute a lot to global warming) then so fucking be it I'll go down in flames laughing at guys like Al Gore, I will NEVER join his side or the side of any who buy into the Anthropogenic Global Warming bullshit.

Climategate....if warming was happening and was due to humans they wouldn't have to FAKE it

[CFH]

As far as I know, Al Gore does use the internet to spread his views. He just also uses other means as well because he obviously feels so strongly about it. I simply don't see any hypocrisy in his actions.

Sun News : Al Gore, carbon hypocrite

Added to which Gore owns the company he purchases his "Carbon Offsets" from....so when he pays for his indulgences he pays HIMSELF and when everyone else stupid enough to pay for their indulgences buy their "carbon offsets" they pay Al Gore as well....I hope this helps you on your journey to reality, learning that Al Gore is a fat stupid hypocrite that made the majority of his money from selling his TV network to Al Jazeera which is owned by the Qatari Royal Family who made their millions selling.....selling....anyone have the answer?? OIL!!!...yes no hypocrisy at all there

Not that I don't trust a source from a Canadian media outlet that I have literally never heard anyone mention ever which appears to be Canada's version of Fox News, but I still don't see unjustifiable hypocrisy. And I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just don't see it.

First, Gore selling and presumably profiting from carbon offsets does not make mean anything. Plenty of people make money while doing something they believe in. I would suspect that Gore is already independently wealthy and that he uses that money to fund his project, but even if he does not I have no problem with it. He's not forcing anyone to buy from him and if it both helps him raise money to help the planet by helping the planet, then I understand the logic behind it.

Second, I have already addressed the television issue in my previous post, and my points from that post still stand. No matter who he worked with in the modern world of media conglomerates, I have no doubt they could be traced back to oil or any number of industries which directly harm the environment.

[El Kabong]

OK so just because you don't like the source it doesn't mean what they say isn't true. Al Gore IS a hypocrite.....The science is settled on that discussion

[CFH]

OK so just because you don't like the source it doesn't mean what they say isn't true. Al Gore IS a hypocrite.....The science is settled on that discussion

My problem with that source is that I literally know nothing about them and, from what I briefly read, they seem challenged in the credibility department.

[El Kabong]

OK so just because you don't like the source it doesn't mean what they say isn't true. Al Gore IS a hypocrite.....The science is settled on that discussion

My problem with that source is that I literally know nothing about them and, from what I briefly read, they seem challenged in the credibility department.

While preaching energy austerity for everyone else in order, he claims, to save the planet from man-made climate change, Gore personally lives a luxurious, jet-setting, carbon dioxide-consuming lifestyle, including multi-million-dollar homes and never-ending, first-class, globe-trotting.

While constantly denouncing the evils of the fossil fuel industry, Gore recently sold his Current TV for $500 million (including a reported personal profit of $70 million) to Al Jazeera, the international news service funded by the oil-and- natural-gas-rich Arab emirate of Qatar.

So those are inaccurate claims



Iaminuit people can say Anthropogenic Global Warming exists all they want to BUT I'm not going to pay any mind to it because #1 People have said for too long "We're doomed already" yet here we are #2 The people preaching that doom haven't cut back at all in their lifestyles (see Al Gore) #3 Who is to say if we stop emitting carbon altogether (with the exception of exhaling) that this can be reversed and #4 Who are we to say what the climate of the Earth should be? If it changed on it's own would we try to stop it?

[Kirkland Laing]

Lyle learned a new word. A five syllable word.!

[Gandalf]

That is perhaps the most cynical attitude to have and the attitude of one who wants his cake and will eat it and be damned if anyone wants to live after the dump has been laid.

If man has caused it or not, man has a responsibility to be as good to this planet as he can because it is all that he has. Why take the risk? Good science has shown the evidence. Bought science is largely the type bought into by the likes of Captain Blowhard and paid for by the oil corporations.

Everyone drives a car, everyone uses an air conditioner. Al Gore is but a tiny part of the equation. There are many ways to deal with the problem, but our current economic models are designed to grow or else and so consuming until nothing remains is the only path they can see. They are all competing to grow and it is a pointless quest when they will eventually have to stop growing.

There are solutions to global warming and that would mean not only the rich pay, but also ordinary people. I think most would be willing to change if it was held to all. That would mean that at the very least, we tried. Surely it is better to try than to say 'To hell with it, I like consumption and it will be me until I die'. Obviously species survival will not happen with such attitudes.

[CFH]

OK so just because you don't like the source it doesn't mean what they say isn't true. Al Gore IS a hypocrite.....The science is settled on that discussion

My problem with that source is that I literally know nothing about them and, from what I briefly read, they seem challenged in the credibility department.

While preaching energy austerity for everyone else in order, he claims, to save the planet from man-made climate change, Gore personally lives a luxurious, jet-setting, carbon dioxide-consuming lifestyle, including multi-million-dollar homes and never-ending, first-class, globe-trotting.

While constantly denouncing the evils of the fossil fuel industry, Gore recently sold his Current TV for $500 million (including a reported personal profit of $70 million) to Al Jazeera, the international news service funded by the oil-and- natural-gas-rich Arab emirate of Qatar.

So those are inaccurate claims



Iaminuit people can say Anthropogenic Global Warming exists all they want to BUT I'm not going to pay any mind to it because #1 People have said for too long "We're doomed already" yet here we are #2 The people preaching that doom haven't cut back at all in their lifestyles (see Al Gore) #3 Who is to say if we stop emitting carbon altogether (with the exception of exhaling) that this can be reversed and #4 Who are we to say what the climate of the Earth should be? If it changed on it's own would we try to stop it?

I have no idea if those claims are true or if they are properly contextualized. What I am saying is that I am extremely hesitant to accept the word of a Canadian "news source" that I have literally never heard mentioned before and one that has a seemingly suspect reputation. Furthermore, I believe, once again, that I have already rebutted the previous points.