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    Did anybody see the gloves are off with Eubank, Collins, Calzaghe, Woodhall, jones and Nelson?? I enjoyed that, loved how intense Collins was in it, Eubank knows how to push his buttons! I think everyone is backing Froch in this fight out of that lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Did anybody see the gloves are off with Eubank, Collins, Calzaghe, Woodhall, jones and Nelson?? I enjoyed that, loved how intense Collins was in it, Eubank knows how to push his buttons! I think everyone is backing Froch in this fight out of that lot!
    listen to the only man that fought Kessler... "Don't write Kessler off, he can still punch!"

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    To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

    The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

    Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

    Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

    The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

    Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

    Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.
    Froch is known for his outstanding stamina your just trying to put him down in every single way possible because you don't like him. When has froch ever in his career ever burnt out? He's always got stronger as the fight progresses so I don't know what your talking about here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

    The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

    Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

    Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.
    Froch is known for his outstanding stamina your just trying to put him down in every single way possible because you don't like him. When has froch ever in his career ever burnt out? He's always got stronger as the fight progresses so I don't know what your talking about here.
    He could not keep up with Kessler. Ill give him that he is consistent through a bout but when someone turns it up like Kessler did he gets outworked. There were quote a few rounds Kessler wan simply because he was throwing and landing more, which after all is what boxing is about...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

    The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

    Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

    Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.
    Froch is known for his outstanding stamina your just trying to put him down in every single way possible because you don't like him. When has froch ever in his career ever burnt out? He's always got stronger as the fight progresses so I don't know what your talking about here.
    He could not keep up with Kessler. Ill give him that he is consistent through a bout but when someone turns it up like Kessler did he gets outworked. There were quote a few rounds Kessler wan simply because he was throwing and landing more, which after all is what boxing is about...
    Yes I agree with you there were rounds where Kessler was out landing Froch and winning rounds and that's why he won the fight. Froch however did come on strong at the end and threw more punches after he lost his momentum a bit before that, especially in the last round, if it had been a 15 round fight I reckon Kessler would have been knocked out.

    Froch will have learnt from his mistakes though and he needs he needs to put his foot on the gas In the whole fight. He's a better fighter now than he was when he last fought Kessler and that will be the difference in the fight.

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    Default Re: The rematch, Carl Froch - Mikkel Kessler 2 fight chat thread - Warriors Call !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

    The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

    Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

    Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.
    Green put Kessler down before he knocked Green down. Are you sure Kessler, at 33, isn't worn out a bit.

    Everyone is picking Froch for a reason I think.

    In my opinion, this is one of those rare legacy-defining fights for both guys. If Kessler leaves England with his second win over Froch, it's huge for his legacy. It means the only people to have beat him are Calzaghe and Ward. No shame in that considering that both guys are considered the top of the super middleweight division historically. If Froch drills Kessler, he avenges one of his two losses, and he can lay claim to beating every top super middleweight out there other than Ward during his prime era. Again, quite the accomplishment. Say what you want about the Dirrell fight, but at the end of the day, Ward doesn't have a win, disputed or not, over Dirrell, and Froch does. Froch needs this win badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    To be honest, I cannot see why Kessler is being written off here.

    The only real advantage Carl has is fighting in his home country.

    Mikkel has anhialated 3 good opponents since his fight with Carl, showing maybe even an improvement in power.

    Carl has had a rougher schedule but that could be to his detriment. He is older and could come in tired like Benn did against Malinga. He may have burnt himself out in the gym.
    Green put Kessler down before he knocked Green down. Are you sure Kessler, at 33, isn't worn out a bit.

    Everyone is picking Froch for a reason I think.

    In my opinion, this is one of those rare legacy-defining fights for both guys. If Kessler leaves England with his second win over Froch, it's huge for his legacy. It means the only people to have beat him are Calzaghe and Ward. No shame in that considering that both guys are considered the top of the super middleweight division historically. If Froch drills Kessler, he avenges one of his two losses, and he can lay claim to beating every top super middleweight out there other than Ward during his prime era. Again, quite the accomplishment. Say what you want about the Dirrell fight, but at the end of the day, Ward doesn't have a win, disputed or not, over Dirrell, and Froch does. Froch needs this win badly.
    Green is a noted big puncher and this was at his favoured weight. There is an interview with him after his involvement with the super six and leading up to the Kessler fight, just after the weigh in where he blames being weight drained for his poor performances etc. He even points and out that Kessler basically came in as a super middle still, just a pound over.

    Kessler did get hurt but it was by a big punching light heavy. Froch got dropped and hurt by someone who couldnt make a dent in a pair of welter weights!

    Calzaghe got hurt a few times and dropped but hes still regarded as one of if not THE best super middle ever. Ward got dropped etc etc...

    Froch had improved since their last fight? He had his worst showing and Ward one of his easiest fights since he lost to Kessler. Froch steamrolled a pair of fighters not known for durability. Kessler had one of his best performances ever in his last fight and comparably better then Froch and Bute over the same fighter.

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