Soldier butchered in street in Woolwich

[Dark Lord Al]

I have always hated the fact muslims put religion before nationality.

Are these people british or muslims ?

they hacked an Englishman to death , because of deaths to muslims in Afganistan ,
doesn't that tell you a lot about loyalties.

Religion for me is the cause of all conflicts and I have no time for any of it.

It turns out the British security forces had known about these two pieces of shit for a decade , it beggers belief we cant do something about it , because of the race and religion card which they play.

I would give them the death penalty for treason.

R.I.P

[Andre]

You know how we often hear 'ordinary Muslims condemn these acts'? Well, I have asked myself why we don't actually hear them condemning it, why we only hear white men condenming it in the name of Muslims, but today we HAVE heard Muslims from all corners of the UK condemning this loudly and clearly. I feel like they shouldn't have to in this case, much like us white christians didn't have to say publically how Breivik didn't represent us, but I feel like they did it anyway because they could feel it was really needed this time.
Go on 99.9% of Muslims!!!
Fuck the EDL.

Why fuck them..?

Are they beheading people in broad daylight ?

Maybe this.
EDL uses an old playbook to spread message of hate


Im glad to hear the 99% of Muslims are denouncing this action,I still think they need to do more work in their own house to stop it from occurring again one way or another.

The Mullah of those two men needs to be locked down or thrown out of England at least, Him and his views need to be booted out of the religion by the 99%.

[El Kabong]

The EDL is what exactly?

[ryanman]

The EDL is what exactly?

English Defence League.
A far-right facist group.
On the political spectrum they are to the right of the BNP.

[El Kabong]

The EDL is what exactly?

English Defence League.
A far-right facist group.
On the political spectrum they are to the right of the BNP.

There's only 2 kinds of English leagues I know about... the Premiere League and the Human League


I wonder if you British have anything like the Libertarian Party

[bzkfn]

We're passed the point of wanting to 'know why'. Whatever the reason, the cause, the disputs, there is no reason nor need for a trial. A man with blood on his hands wielding weapons needs only one thing, an end.

Trials are very important for both the victims honour and as a mark in the sand. We as a society abhor this behaviour and it will result in consequences. You can not let them drag you down to their level.

Wow, for once I completely disagree with you. When it comes to crimes like this, I don't believe that trials and prison bring any sense of justice to the crime. In crimes like this, when there is concrete video evidence that a man has committed such a heinous crime, I geniunely believe slow and painful torture is a correct form of punishment. All this crap about "don't stoop to their level" is bollocks, because they commit this crime, say they'd do it again and don't see any wrong in it. If they felt a similar kind of pain, maybe they'd see how wrong they are. How is a trial going to bring closure to a family, when he is there smiling in the dock?

[TitoFan]

We're passed the point of wanting to 'know why'. Whatever the reason, the cause, the disputs, there is no reason nor need for a trial. A man with blood on his hands wielding weapons needs only one thing, an end.

Trials are very important for both the victims honour and as a mark in the sand. We as a society abhor this behaviour and it will result in consequences. You can not let them drag you down to their level.

Wow, for once I completely disagree with you. When it comes to crimes like this, I don't believe that trials and prison bring any sense of justice to the crime. In crimes like this, when there is concrete video evidence that a man has committed such a heinous crime, I geniunely believe slow and painful torture is a correct form of punishment. All this crap about "don't stoop to their level" is bollocks, because they commit this crime, say they'd do it again and don't see any wrong in it. If they felt a similar kind of pain, maybe they'd see how wrong they are. How is a trial going to bring closure to a family, when he is there smiling in the dock?

It's another excuse to stuff more money into crooked defense lawyers' pockets.

[El Kabong]

When there is soooo much evidence against someone and guilt is so blatant, why waste time on a trial where these dipshits can say "Well I was temporarily insane" or "I was traumatized by the War on Terror".....nah, they shouldn't have even offered them medical treatment after they were shot, just get the bastards and hang them and put their bodies on display in the harbor so that everyone knows what happens to jokers like that.

[Beanz]

Muslims in shock after grandfather is killed on way home from mosque - Telegraph

What about the people who stabbed this guy ? should we torture them and then hang their bodies on display?

What happened in Woolwich was horrific but it was a knife crime, a cowardly murder carried out on the street. The media, the clueless government and half of the people reacting like it is an act of war are playing right into the hands of two British born dickheads. Who gave them the authority to speak for aggrieved Muslims from countries they have not even visited? Putting them on the front pages amounts to moral collusion with the pair of self righteous deluded madmen. "You people will never be safe" really? their both fucked after being shot so they are no threat and the war they want on British streets is being rejected by the vast majority of actual Muslims.

[El Kabong]

Muslims in shock after grandfather is killed on way home from mosque - Telegraph

What about the people who stabbed this guy ? should we torture them and then hang their bodies on display?

What happened in Woolwich was horrific but it was a knife crime, a cowardly murder carried out on the street. The media, the clueless government and half of the people reacting like it is an act of war are playing right into the hands of two British born dickheads. Who gave them the authority to speak for aggrieved Muslims from countries they have not even visited? Putting them on the front pages amounts to moral collusion with the pair of self righteous deluded madmen. "You people will never be safe" really? their both fucked after being shot so they are no threat and the war they want on British streets is being rejected by the vast majority of actual Muslims.

That's bad, but you can blame the murders of that soldier for inciting that violence as well. Everyone knew there would be blowback from that attack.

If the guys that killed that grandfather are as blatantly guilty as those guys who murdered the soldier yes, I say same rules apply.....is there a video saying they're coming after all Muslims and declaring war on them and that they aren't ever going to be safe?

[Dia bando]

We can not tolerate people who wish to act in this manner, no mater on religious grounds or
what ever. When you live in a democratic country, you act accordingly not like butchers you
may demonstrate your view, in a law abiding manner.
If you can't may I suggest, you up sticks and move to a Country that will tolerate this kind of
barbaric behavior.There is no room in this Country, for people who don't abide to civilized
culture, we moved on from meed evil times.

[TitoFan]

Muslims in shock after grandfather is killed on way home from mosque - Telegraph

What about the people who stabbed this guy ? should we torture them and then hang their bodies on display?

What happened in Woolwich was horrific but it was a knife crime, a cowardly murder carried out on the street. The media, the clueless government and half of the people reacting like it is an act of war are playing right into the hands of two British born dickheads. Who gave them the authority to speak for aggrieved Muslims from countries they have not even visited? Putting them on the front pages amounts to moral collusion with the pair of self righteous deluded madmen. "You people will never be safe" really? their both fucked after being shot so they are no threat and the war they want on British streets is being rejected by the vast majority of actual Muslims.

People commit these kinds of crimes, counting on a lengthy, drawn-out legal process with probabilities of being acquitted due to some technical snafu, or being imprisoned for life, with all their basic human needs met for free. At some point you have to draw the line and send a message to this type of human garbage, that heinous crimes of this sort will be met with swift, and life-altering consequences.

Or is that too "noncommittal" an answer?

[Dark Lord Al]

Muslims in shock after grandfather is killed on way home from mosque - Telegraph

What about the people who stabbed this guy ? should we torture them and then hang their bodies on display?

What happened in Woolwich was horrific but it was a knife crime, a cowardly murder carried out on the street. The media, the clueless government and half of the people reacting like it is an act of war are playing right into the hands of two British born dickheads. Who gave them the authority to speak for aggrieved Muslims from countries they have not even visited? Putting them on the front pages amounts to moral collusion with the pair of self righteous deluded madmen. "You people will never be safe" really? their both fucked after being shot so they are no threat and the war they want on British streets is being rejected by the vast majority of actual Muslims.

Bring back the death sentence and treason laws.

[Beanz]

Muslims in shock after grandfather is killed on way home from mosque - Telegraph

What about the people who stabbed this guy ? should we torture them and then hang their bodies on display?

What happened in Woolwich was horrific but it was a knife crime, a cowardly murder carried out on the street. The media, the clueless government and half of the people reacting like it is an act of war are playing right into the hands of two British born dickheads. Who gave them the authority to speak for aggrieved Muslims from countries they have not even visited? Putting them on the front pages amounts to moral collusion with the pair of self righteous deluded madmen. "You people will never be safe" really? their both fucked after being shot so they are no threat and the war they want on British streets is being rejected by the vast majority of actual Muslims.

That's bad, but you can blame the murders of that soldier for inciting that violence as well. Everyone knew there would be blowback from that attack.

If the guys that killed that grandfather are as blatantly guilty as those guys who murdered the soldier yes, I say same rules apply.....is there a video saying they're coming after all Muslims and declaring war on them and that they aren't ever going to be safe?

That attack happened BEFORE the Woolwich incident. Total C***s come in all colours. And yes of course far right groups are just as indiscriminate in their threatening.

[Beanz]

Muslims in shock after grandfather is killed on way home from mosque - Telegraph

What about the people who stabbed this guy ? should we torture them and then hang their bodies on display?

What happened in Woolwich was horrific but it was a knife crime, a cowardly murder carried out on the street. The media, the clueless government and half of the people reacting like it is an act of war are playing right into the hands of two British born dickheads. Who gave them the authority to speak for aggrieved Muslims from countries they have not even visited? Putting them on the front pages amounts to moral collusion with the pair of self righteous deluded madmen. "You people will never be safe" really? their both fucked after being shot so they are no threat and the war they want on British streets is being rejected by the vast majority of actual Muslims.

People commit these kinds of crimes, counting on a lengthy, drawn-out legal process with probabilities of being acquitted due to some technical snafu, or being imprisoned for life, with all their basic human needs met for free. At some point you have to draw the line and send a message to this type of human garbage, that heinous crimes of this sort will be met with swift, and life-altering consequences.

Or is that too "noncommittal" an answer?

No it is a bullshit answer. They wanted to die as Martyrs. I am saying by executing someone without a trial you lend their delusions creedence. They are common criminals. murderers.