The rematch, Carl Froch - Mikkel Kessler 2 fight chat thread - Warriors Call !!!

[Memphis]

http://www.boxingscene.com/weights-from-london-froch-1675-kessler-1664--65869

Both fighters make the weight , Kessler comes in at his lightest weight in more than a decade

Tam your links are really fucking me off

[Tam Seddon]

http://www.boxingscene.com/weights-from-london-froch-1675-kessler-1664--65869

Both fighters make the weight , Kessler comes in at his lightest weight in more than a decade

Tam your links are really fucking me off

I am sorry it's because my laptop is broken and I am on my phone but I still want to share the news ! It's a nightmare having no laptop!!!!!!!!!!!

[IamInuit]

Both look in great shape.

[ross]

Both look in great shape.

Im surprised at Kesslers weight!

Whats Carl up to at 6.08 in the video...

[Fenster]

The bird holding the belt checked out Kessler's cock when he stripped off.

[Rantcatrat]

Kessler weighed in light. Effect? Does he plan to box more?

[ross]

Kessler weighed in light. Effect? Does he plan to box more?

I think he will box more but I doubt coming in light has mich to do with it, id say its more a reflection of how hard hes trained.

[Kirkland Laing]

Ringwalks are supposed to be at 11.15pm London time.

Ward is now talking about maybe kinda coming over to England and fighting Froch.

Ward's last fight against Dawson earned him a $1.365 million purse.

If this PPV is really successful (I was wondering why they'd have this on Champions League final night but when they announced it was PPV the date may turn into a masterstroke) and does a million buys, once you take off VAT and Sky's share that'll leave about six million quid for the promotion. Add on the gate, foreign TV money and everything else and that's I'd guess eight to nine. Let's say the promoters' costs and profit is nearly three and the gross is nearly nine. That leaves six million quid, or nine million dollars for the fighters to split. Probably closer to four million dollars each. That's still nearly four times what Ward made for his last fight.

If Froch wins Ward can easily ask for a 60/40 split and will probably get it. Froch winning means he's the biggest payday for Ward and Hopkins by some distance.

[IamInuit]

Kessler weighed in light. Effect? Does he plan to box more?

I'm guessing they went for speed. Be interesting to see Kesslers approach. I guess there could also be a chance he over trained but he looks healthy enough.

[Tam Seddon]

http://www.boxingscene.com/carl-froch-im-not-cracking-kessler-shock--65876

[Fenster]

Ringwalks are supposed to be at 11.15pm London time.

Ward is now talking about maybe kinda coming over to England and fighting Froch.

Ward's last fight against Dawson earned him a $1.365 million purse.

If this PPV is really successful (I was wondering why they'd have this on Champions League final night but when they announced it was PPV the date may turn into a masterstroke) and does a million buys, once you take off VAT and Sky's share that'll leave about six million quid for the promotion. Add on the gate, foreign TV money and everything else and that's I'd guess eight to nine. Let's say the promoters' costs and profit is nearly three and the gross is nearly nine. That leaves six million quid, or nine million dollars for the fighters to split. Probably closer to four million dollars each. That's still nearly four times what Ward made for his last fight.

If Froch wins Ward can easily ask for a 60/40 split and will probably get it. Froch winning means he's the biggest payday for Ward and Hopkins by some distance.

Fuck me, you're being a bit optimistic there kirk. A million PPV? The promotion has been massive, but if it gets close to half that it will be amazing. It wouldn't get a million viewers on normal sky sports.

[Silkeyjoe]

Lets be realistic.

Since fight 1 Kessler has had 3 fight and the only half decent fighter he fought was Allen Green.

Froch has had 5 fight and the WORST he has fought is Yusif Mack.

So Froch has been the more productive, plus he seems to have found a mean streak and a sudden burst of power against world class fighters.

Froch was struggling for KOs at the top level, only managing to stop Jermaine Taylor, but look at the last 2 fights.

I think Froch stops him round 6-8.

Froch fought, an average Abraham, an old Johnson (only by MD) lost to Ward, KOed BUte and KOed Mack. Only think impressive there is the Bute win and in hindsite Bute was good but not that good. Mack is shit. What Froch has done, is not that impressive and if he wasnt English he wouldnt be getting this ridiculous hype.

[ross]

Lets be realistic.

Since fight 1 Kessler has had 3 fight and the only half decent fighter he fought was Allen Green.

Froch has had 5 fight and the WORST he has fought is Yusif Mack.

So Froch has been the more productive, plus he seems to have found a mean streak and a sudden burst of power against world class fighters.

Froch was struggling for KOs at the top level, only managing to stop Jermaine Taylor, but look at the last 2 fights.

I think Froch stops him round 6-8.

Froch fought, an average Abraham, an old Johnson (only by MD) lost to Ward, KOed BUte and KOed Mack. Only think impressive there is the Bute win and in hindsite Bute was good but not that good. Mack is shit. What Froch has done, is not that impressive and if he wasnt English he wouldnt be getting this ridiculous hype.

Abraham and Johnson are well suited to make Froch look good, both very pedestrian, one a one trick pony middle weight and one a weight drained light heavy in his forties.

[Silkeyjoe]

Ringwalks are supposed to be at 11.15pm London time.

Ward is now talking about maybe kinda coming over to England and fighting Froch.

Ward's last fight against Dawson earned him a $1.365 million purse.

If this PPV is really successful (I was wondering why they'd have this on Champions League final night but when they announced it was PPV the date may turn into a masterstroke) and does a million buys, once you take off VAT and Sky's share that'll leave about six million quid for the promotion. Add on the gate, foreign TV money and everything else and that's I'd guess eight to nine. Let's say the promoters' costs and profit is nearly three and the gross is nearly nine. That leaves six million quid, or nine million dollars for the fighters to split. Probably closer to four million dollars each. That's still nearly four times what Ward made for his last fight.

If Froch wins Ward can easily ask for a 60/40 split and will probably get it. Froch winning means he's the biggest payday for Ward and Hopkins by some distance.

If Froch wins Ward can ask for a 60% split but he aint gonna get it. Froch knows he is the draw and will more likely get 60% himself in my opinion. Ward doesnt exactly have guys lining up to fight him. Froch on the other hand does.

[imp]

Are both of these guys going to be nearly men? Or will the winner of this fight propel them to greatness.?

The thing is, who would you say gave the best performance against ward? Which one has the ability to possibly beat him in the rematch and retire knowing you unified the divison.

Kessler always seems in great condition and is a good fighter but he came up short many moons ago against joe calzaghe and then to ward.
But, i like the fact kessler came to joes turf and is willing to fight anywhere against anyone.

Carl seems to have that same drive and is very willing to fight anyone (even though he has trouble against both of the "andres")

Perhaps carl was trying not to be too aggressive at the weigh in due to his recent comments but body language showed that kessler came off alot better and more confident.

These two are both great fighters but this a great stepping stone to a rematch with someone i dont think neither of them think they can beat.. And andre knows it.