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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Just to play devil's advocate:

    Taylor - Pavlik already stopped him. 160 was his best weight class.
    Abraham - Dirrell already beat him. 160 was his best weight class.
    Pascal - Great Win. 175 is his best weight class though.
    Bute - Froch's best win.
    Kessler - Good win. Splits series with Kessler. 31 year old Kessler beat Froch in a close fight. 34 year old Kessler lost to Froch in close fight. Age play a role?
    Dirrell - Close fight. Counts as a win though.
    I think Froch deserves credit for the Taylor win, because Taylor looked sharp and Froch fought better version of Taylor than Abraham and ETC fought. Also remember Taylor fought Pavlik in there rematch at near enough 168, and Taylor performed better in the rematch than he did at Middleweight losing a narrow decision. Also remember how high everyone ranked Pavlik at that time.

    As for the Kessler fight Froch is older than Kessler remember, also i think why Froch lost the 1st fight was because he was too passive. In the rematch he started off very quickly and was alot more aggressive, which is why i think he won rather than it to do with Kessler's age.

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    Default Re: Can froch now legitimately claim to be remembered as better than Calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Just to play devil's advocate:

    Taylor - Pavlik already stopped him. 160 was his best weight class.
    Abraham - Dirrell already beat him. 160 was his best weight class.
    Pascal - Great Win. 175 is his best weight class though.
    Bute - Froch's best win.
    Kessler - Good win. Splits series with Kessler. 31 year old Kessler beat Froch in a close fight. 34 year old Kessler lost to Froch in close fight. Age play a role?
    Dirrell - Close fight. Counts as a win though.
    I think Froch deserves credit for the Taylor win, because Taylor looked sharp and Froch fought better version of Taylor than Abraham and ETC fought. Also remember Taylor fought Pavlik in there rematch at near enough 168, and Taylor performed better in the rematch than he did at Middleweight losing a narrow decision. Also remember how high everyone ranked Pavlik at that time.

    As for the Kessler fight Froch is older than Kessler remember, also i think why Froch lost the 1st fight was because he was too passive. In the rematch he started off very quickly and was alot more aggressive, which is why i think he won rather than it to do with Kessler's age.
    Kessler wan a world title 4 years before Froch fought for one. Kessler is tired at the weight. He first became a world champ at super middle 9 years ago. Kessler was a unified champ before his first loss to Calzaghe. It has taken Froch 2 losses to become a unified champ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Just to play devil's advocate:

    Taylor - Pavlik already stopped him. 160 was his best weight class.
    Abraham - Dirrell already beat him. 160 was his best weight class.
    Pascal - Great Win. 175 is his best weight class though.
    Bute - Froch's best win.
    Kessler - Good win. Splits series with Kessler. 31 year old Kessler beat Froch in a close fight. 34 year old Kessler lost to Froch in close fight. Age play a role?
    Dirrell - Close fight. Counts as a win though.
    I think Froch deserves credit for the Taylor win, because Taylor looked sharp and Froch fought better version of Taylor than Abraham and ETC fought. Also remember Taylor fought Pavlik in there rematch at near enough 168, and Taylor performed better in the rematch than he did at Middleweight losing a narrow decision. Also remember how high everyone ranked Pavlik at that time.

    As for the Kessler fight Froch is older than Kessler remember, also i think why Froch lost the 1st fight was because he was too passive. In the rematch he started off very quickly and was alot more aggressive, which is why i think he won rather than it to do with Kessler's age.
    Kessler wan a world title 4 years before Froch fought for one. Kessler is tired at the weight. He first became a world champ at super middle 9 years ago. Kessler was a unified champ before his first loss to Calzaghe. It has taken Froch 2 losses to become a unified champ.
    Kessler hasn't really had a hard career though, he's a fresh 34 year old Froch has been in more wars than Kessler.

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    Its pretty obvious that froch has had a much harder road than JC.

    But then again how much of this is frank warrens fault?

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