Can froch now legitimately claim to be remembered as better than Calzaghe

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He's beaten better names at Super Middleweight than Calzaghe ever did.

Jermain Taylor
Andre Dirrell
Arthur Abraham
Jean Pascal
Lucian Bute
Mikkel Kessler
Glen Johnson

Apart from Mikkel Kessler obviously who on Calzaghe's list at Super Middleweight really compares with them names ?

Chris Eubank maybe but Eubank was weight drained and not in his prime, still a good win for Calzaghe. But other names like Woodhall, Reid, Lacy, don't really compare IMO.

And Reid and Woodhall were both coming off bad losses, Reid lost his title to a 42 year old Thulani Malinga in one of the worst world title fights i've ever seen.

And Woodhall had just lost to Markus Beyer, being decked 3 times by a fighter not known to be a hard hitter.

Calzaghe maybe the better skilled fighter, but Froch is more willing to fight the top boys and has beaten more dangerous fighters at Super Middleweight IMO.

Wow. Just wow. Can I ask hold old you are?

Does it matter how old i am ? i've seen pretty much every important Joe Calzaghe fight. Aswell as every important Carl Froch fight, so i think i can voice an opinion on both fighters.

Im not really sure why your so gob smacked by my comment ? what in my comment has shocked you ? i think pretty much mostly everyone on this thread agrees that Froch has beaten more household names at SMW, but in a head to head sense Calzaghe would beat Froch.

Im not really sure what else i can say.

Just strange that you would rate a shot Taylor, a shot Johnson, an average Abraham and an average Bute above Hopkins, RJJ, Lacy. I think the above at the time Joe fought them beats anyone Carl fought at the time he fought them. I know Jones was a bit shot when he fought Joe but I still think that Roy beats them. Sure Hopkins today would still beat them all

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He's beaten better names at Super Middleweight than Calzaghe ever did.

Jermain Taylor
Andre Dirrell
Arthur Abraham
Jean Pascal
Lucian Bute
Mikkel Kessler
Glen Johnson

Apart from Mikkel Kessler obviously who on Calzaghe's list at Super Middleweight really compares with them names ?

Chris Eubank maybe but Eubank was weight drained and not in his prime, still a good win for Calzaghe. But other names like Woodhall, Reid, Lacy, don't really compare IMO.

And Reid and Woodhall were both coming off bad losses, Reid lost his title to a 42 year old Thulani Malinga in one of the worst world title fights i've ever seen.

And Woodhall had just lost to Markus Beyer, being decked 3 times by a fighter not known to be a hard hitter.

Calzaghe maybe the better skilled fighter, but Froch is more willing to fight the top boys and has beaten more dangerous fighters at Super Middleweight IMO.

Wow. Just wow. Can I ask hold old you are?

Does it matter how old i am ? i've seen pretty much every important Joe Calzaghe fight. Aswell as every important Carl Froch fight, so i think i can voice an opinion on both fighters.

Im not really sure why your so gob smacked by my comment ? what in my comment has shocked you ? i think pretty much mostly everyone on this thread agrees that Froch has beaten more household names at SMW, but in a head to head sense Calzaghe would beat Froch.

Im not really sure what else i can say.

Just strange that you would rate a shot Taylor, a shot Johnson, an average Abraham and an average Bute above Hopkins, RJJ, Lacy. I think the above at the time Joe fought them beats anyone Carl fought at the time he fought them. I know Jones was a bit shot when he fought Joe but I still think that Roy beats them. Sure Hopkins today would still beat them all

RJJ was completely shot, i find it strange your trying to give JC any credit for RJJ win. Calzaghe himself said in his own words a few years before he fought RJJ, "Beating RJJ would mean nothing now" so why a few years later should it mean something ? look at RJJ's record after the Calzaghe fight, this isn't the 90's RJJ were talking about here.

Jeff Lacy overhyped and was only ever mediocre, he struggled against Peter Manfredo for crying out loud. Amongst all his other one sided losses, including losing to in your own words "A shot Jermain Taylor" by 12 rounds to 0.

I don't think Jermain Taylor was shot either, maybe not at his 100 percent best but not shot. He lost a razor thin decision to Pavlik and destroyed Jeff Lacy who you seem to rate.

The only real win i'd give him credit for is the B-Hop one, although i felt B-Hop edged it by 1 round. But that's debatable but i'd agree on the B-HOP win but nothing else.