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    Im not one of those who believe in Bruce Li beats all but with him it's more about his philosophy and work ethnic that makes him so great. The guy understood shit. He didnt believe in a certain style which was why he studied all aspects of martial arts. He said be formless like water.. When water pours into a tea pot, it becomes the tea pot and when u put water into a cup, it becomes the cup..

    He was clearly ahead of his time..

    BUt as far as him kicking ass in a sanctioned bout or on the streets, im not totally convinced.. Ill say this though to those of you who are shitting on him.. HE'd fuck u up most likely and most of the average joes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Im not one of those who believe in Bruce Li beats all but with him it's more about his philosophy and work ethnic that makes him so great. The guy understood shit. He didnt believe in a certain style which was why he studied all aspects of martial arts. He said be formless like water.. When water pours into a tea pot, it becomes the tea pot and when u put water into a cup, it becomes the cup..

    He was clearly ahead of his time..

    BUt as far as him kicking ass in a sanctioned bout or on the streets, im not totally convinced.. Ill say this though to those of you who are shitting on him.. HE'd fuck u up most likely and most of the average joes..
    I still try to give the guy credit and maintain a certain respect for him cause like I said we were all a fan of him growing up.

    I would love for him to kick my ass if he was alive or one of his JKD Wing Chun Kung Fu offspring/student but they don't actually fight. When they do they don't actually win, in my personal experience these guys train a certain way but when they throwdown, the stance alone goes out the window and shit don't work. You look at a boxer or a muay thai guy, inside a ring or not, with or without rules, he is the same fighter, same stance same all throughout a fight because it is effective and without the myths or unproven fancy philosophy of many martial arts.

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    Default Re: R.I.P Bruce Lee but....

    Too much theory, not enough practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Im not one of those who believe in Bruce Li beats all but with him it's more about his philosophy and work ethnic that makes him so great. The guy understood shit. He didnt believe in a certain style which was why he studied all aspects of martial arts. He said be formless like water.. When water pours into a tea pot, it becomes the tea pot and when u put water into a cup, it becomes the cup..

    He was clearly ahead of his time..

    BUt as far as him kicking ass in a sanctioned bout or on the streets, im not totally convinced.. Ill say this though to those of you who are shitting on him.. HE'd fuck u up most likely and most of the average joes..
    I still try to give the guy credit and maintain a certain respect for him cause like I said we were all a fan of him growing up.

    I would love for him to kick my ass if he was alive or one of his JKD Wing Chun Kung Fu offspring/student but they don't actually fight. When they do they don't actually win, in my personal experience these guys train a certain way but when they throw down, the stance alone goes out the window and shit don't work. You look at a boxer or a muay thai guy, inside a ring or not, with or without rules, he is the same fighter, same stance same all throughout a fight because it is effective and without the myths or unproven fancy philosophy of many martial arts.
    I think you are right here, at least for 98% of them who come under any real pressure.

    You have a bee in your bonnet over this Kungfu wing chun Bruce lee stuff.
    I think most single arts have the same flaws though,but to differing extents.

    Out of 200 students in a Wingchun class I once knew in the eighties anyone above average could beat 195 of them me included. Out of the 200 there were five men who anyone would have a job against on the street where ever; but they didnt stand there in the first learned fixed stance throwing chain punches cause that is the very basics.
    A couple of these guys were SOG cops special operation group,very tough men and their job means they cross trained.They are the ones who take whole bike gangs down inside their own territory,(once a year they have to go in and bust them thats their itinerary.) Another was a giant of a man,black, a Maori warrior looking dude that hit so fucking hard and had a built in amour.Another was a freelance fighter of Ukraine origin an army fellow who came to train. In all seriousness these blokes used techniques that worked, inter comp full contact and at work too.They liked the art for what it was, the history etc but were more natural and mixed up what worked into their own natural style and didnt stay traditional.

    So I agree with you Kung fu wont stand up to mixed martial arts neither will karate or tae kwn do or judo or shilat the list goes on.

    But out of each group, each art, you have the odd exceptional bloke and a fair few techniques that do work. What Im stating isnt the opposite of what you are trying to portray here even though as you say; the thought of it annoys you somewhat.

    If something works in a certain situation use it, if it doesnt work, dont.

    I think it takes alot more than any taught system to make champion material in someone as they are in the top 2% of the elite in any sport,they are the ones who take on everything thats required and have some natural instincts, toughness, hard chins and good dna stock if they are lucky. Theres alot of pieces to the puzzle and if a piece is missing we have the techniques or raw guts and determination that can make up for them. I find the whole thing fascinating.
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