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Ok guys.... one of these versions is incorrect.
Which one is it, I have no idea.
But obviously they're at the heart of the matter.
Has this been conclusively determined one way or the other?
The picture that was taken of him with his nose busted was him in the back of the squad car when they arrived. This is 100% solid.

Then again maybe he punched his own nose after he shot him, then slammed own head against something to create the damage in the few split seconds between him shooting Treyvon and the witnesses coming out to see what was going on after hearing the gunshot...


If it has been established beyond a shadow of a doubt that Zimmerman suffered those injuries while being assaulted by Treyvon, then a self-defense verdict is highly likely. Everything else is irrevelant. It's irrevelant that Zimmerman may be a trashy human being. It's irrevelant that Zimmerman may have followed Treyvon simply because he was black, thus being guilty of the worst stereotyping. It's irrevelant that Treyvon was unarmed, because with those types of injuries, Zimmerman's life was likely in danger.

One can over-analyze this case and throw all kinds of angles at it. The simple fact is that it was either manslaughter by Zimmerman, or self-defense. And if Florida law provides the right for a man to defend himself via use of a firearm, then there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. People who seek to make this into a black-vs-white case are missing the forest for the trees.