Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

[cambay411]

Can you pick out when he juiced because as far as i know he passed all the test. That is the problem with the unfair cant tell when any of them started to or if they might of stopped testing is bad. If you want fair your not going to get it with a system like we have now and do you really care if juicing was legal to do in sports. We as fans always look for the best showing so if it can enhance the entertainment i am not sure why it is still illegal to do it seems like a real big step back wards why would we not want better people to watch.

I hate the fact that you cant look at a champion fighter these days and know if they did it fair or not.

If a fighter does get caught that will change my entire opinion of them. To me it means they are weak and scared and not even true fighters. They are to scared to do it without PED's. Shortcuts aren't the way of a true fighter imo.

[bradlee180]

I hate the fact that you cant look at a champion fighter these days and know if they did it fair or not.

You can't make fair out of fight. There's no such thing.

[bradlee180]

RE:"To me it means they are weak and scared and not even true fighters."

Are you still on drugs or suffering residual effects?

These men are in general opportunistic. Give an inch, they'll take your head off. Show weakness, they'll attack it. Many of these men talk quite openly about their fear getting in the ring to do hand-to-hand combat.

[cambay411]

RE:"To me it means they are weak and scared and not even true fighters."

Are you still on drugs or suffering residual effects?

These men are in general opportunistic. Give an inch, they'll take your head off. Show weakness, they'll attack it. Many of these men talk quite openly about their fear getting in the ring to do hand-to-hand combat.

Definately a bit of an over statement. Really didn't mean to call anyone who jumps in the ring scared. I meant more along the lines of scared to lose.

Whats a fighter want the most? To be the best and test themselves. To be the toughest. Of course many will do whatever it takes.

I think many are blinded by wanting to win and be the best and forget about wanting to find out how tough the truly are. I also think in the end they would have to regret it (using PED's)because with the extra help they didn't truly find out what they were made of. Even with all their achievements they know they had help.

[bradlee180]

Ya forgot about professional prizefighters fight for money...

[cambay411]

Ya forgot about professional prizefighters fight for money...

Another reason why especially journey men fighter would turn to juice, good point.

[bradlee180]

I've had enough of attempting a sensible, intelligent discourse with you; it's clearly beyond your drug-damaged capabilities. All you do is get my panties in a bunch; you'll get no christmas card from me, cambay411.