Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

[ray corso]

Can't answer my questions about YOU? You want me to respond to you but you have NO answer to me? Take your "dreaming about boxing" pills and stop being such a punk azz kid! irst off my comments weren't directed to you so why confront my legitimacy?
If you want to know some of my knowledge why not think of a some intelligent questions about the sport!! If you can, your probably just another "records reader" or makes comparisons of common opponents!!! Just another mouth flapping in the wind! Ray.

[p4pking]

Can't answer my questions about YOU? You want me to respond to you but you have NO answer to me? Take your "dreaming about boxing" pills and stop being such a punk azz kid! irst off my comments weren't directed to you so why confront my legitimacy?
If you want to know some of my knowledge why not think of a some intelligent questions about the sport!! If you can, your probably just another "records reader" or makes comparisons of common opponents!!! Just another mouth flapping in the wind! Ray.

I didn't claim to be anyone or bring my personal merits into the thread out of the blue for fucks sake. I don't end all of my posts with my real name like a wingnut either. I'm nobody but a boxing fan to anyone here, and I'm sure you know infinitely more about the sport than I do.

I was only commenting on the way you appear to handle perceived conflict, which is extremely counter productive to say the least. People would be a lot more receptive to what you may know if you didn't come across as such a tool.

[bradlee180]

The consistent disrespect shown on Boxing forums is why men on the inside of the sport don't post on forums very much. They figure there's just too many disrespectful idiots on Boxing/MMA forums, PERIOD.


And it's true...

Yet if you find a solid site like the old cyber boxing zone forum (on which the curtain came down recently), the discussion can seem too dry for young fellas...

EDIT:
It's unfortunate. When you get guys that were in camp with Ali, or Frazier, or Hurricane Carter, or Tyson, or whoever, or were refs in high-profile fights, the thing that so many young idiots do in forums is disrespect them and they leave. Men from inside the sport have so many tales to tell, so much information to be had, and for free because they like talkin' Boxing, yet so many young idiots who call themselves Boxing fans cause the inside men to leave because of the young $#!t-snaps' collective consistent disrespect and arrogance...

[ray corso]

if your get so upset just avoid the posts! I don't want or need to hear your opinions about my posts, you don't know anything about the sport your just another kid who wants to vervally spar from the safety of your screen! Just bypass ME!!! Then you won't have to deal with ME at all.
If you haven't any pride in your "real name' thats a personal problem but again "I don't care" I do care if some punk azz kid talks shit so shut the fuck up and isolate my posts from your eyes then you don't have to deal with it!!
Continue your boxing education on boxrec and reading boxers bios! Done with you, grow up!
Ray

[p4pking]

There is no reason you can't share what you know in a more civil manner is all I mean, nobody attacked you or said anything outlandish to begin with.. If you know firsthand that Tyson wasn't as tall as Marciano just say you've met them both and know so, that's awesome and nobody will dispute it. What on earth about that set you off so much anyways

[cambay411]

There is no reason you can't share what you know in a more civil manner is all I mean, nobody attacked you or said anything outlandish to begin with.. If you know firsthand that Tyson wasn't as tall as Marciano just say you've met them both and know so, that's awesome and nobody will dispute it. What on earth about that set you off so much anyways

I must say when I first started to read his first post about Tyson and Marciano's height I thought hell yeah that's awesome. And then as I kept reading all the negativity and insults it kinda made me think it was just someone trolling.

So im still at a toss up about it. How he explains Marciano's size and stuff like that just makes it seem believeable to me. If it wasn't for the negativity I wouldn't came close to second guessing what he said.

[p4pking]

I'm quite sure he's not trolling at all, and it's very cool that he has worked closely in the sport as I said. He's just apparently very bitter about something and would rather insult people than inform them, which is pretty hurting.

[ray corso]

Name calling?

started here; master-#156/ cambay-#162/ p4pK-#163/ same #165

Theres the name calling and theres the attitudes, long before I replied with any agitation!
Theres a few on every forum who enjoy my experience and I share with them.
Then theres the younger folks who want to verbally spar with me because they're on a boxing forum for the wrong reasons!
So now tell me who started this BS? Ray Corso

[p4pking]

Well, your post was #161..... Just sayin

[cambay411]

Name calling?

started here; master-#156/ cambay-#162/ p4pK-#163/ same #165

Theres the name calling and theres the attitudes, long before I replied with any agitation!
Theres a few on every forum who enjoy my experience and I share with them.
Then theres the younger folks who want to verbally spar with me because they're on a boxing forum for the wrong reasons!
So now tell me who started this BS? Ray Corso

But if it really is all true then that is awesome lol.

Master said to quit making things up to suit your fighter. And then put in a smiley face. He disagreed but didn't insult. Everything was still in good conversation.

I understand how the internet is. There are people just waiting to talk trash behind a computer screen. Its easy to get defensive on the internet especially considering how many people are just trying to make others upset.

I apologize if I offended you I certainly didn't mean to. And I really don't think anyone else did either. Most people on here are just up for good debate.

[Beanflicker]

Who cares about the height, we're talking a matter of inches, I don't see how that would matter in the fight.

Tyson kills Marciano because, athletically, he was head and shoulders above Rocky and anybody Rocky fought, and not only that, skill and attribute-wise he was superior to Rocky in just about every way, except probably heart and stamina.

Tyson prime was 215-220. Marciano wasn't even a true heavyweight in the modern sense, nor was he fighting (on average) true heavyweights. I know people respond "BUT MARCIANO DID FIGHT GUYS OVER 200!!!" True, but there's no comparing Don Cockell and Johnny Skor to a prime Mike Tyson.

I think some people have this vision of Marciano breaking Tyson down and scoring a late round stoppage. This is crazy, Marciano gets smashed by a much more dynamic and skilled puncher.

[Fenster]

I care about the height. This is some of the funniest shit i've ever read. ANY thread involving Tyson descends into a mass of arguments, however, I can't ever recall a thread, on this site, going mental over his height. Awesome.

So just about every record in the world documents Tyson at about - 5'11

Ray Corso, who has personally measured him, made him - 5'9

Thus 5'11 Rocky Marciano would have towered over him.

Great stuff.

[El Kabong]

....can we change the title of this thread to "Let's never stop arguing about Mike Tyson or anyone else in boxing oooh and PEDs too because we like to veer off subject a bit"



All in favor?

[Beanflicker]

....can we change the title of this thread to "Let's never stop arguing about Mike Tyson or anyone else in boxing oooh and PEDs too because we like to veer off subject a bit"



All in favor?

I second that notion!

[greynotsoold]

I care about the height. This is some of the funniest shit i've ever read. ANY thread involving Tyson descends into a mass of arguments, however, I can't ever recall a thread, on this site, going mental over his height. Awesome.

So just about every record in the world documents Tyson at about - 5'11

Ray Corso, who has personally measured him, made him - 5'9

Thus 5'11 Rocky Marciano would have towered over him.

Great stuff.

My friend stood next to him at a craps table at the Las Vegas Hilton; he claims to be 5'11, I think he is shorter, and he thought Tyson was 5'8"or 5'9".