Garcia loses title on the scales.

[Spicoli]

I don't think it's accidental anymore. Wonder if he weighed in with that stupid huge hat on?

[armin]

I don't think it's accidental anymore. Wonder if he weighed in with that stupid huge hat on?

Does garcia have a history of missing weight? I'm fan of the guy but two pounds is still two pounds to many

[GAME]

Disappointing. I liked the look of Garcia but i sounds like he might have a touch of the Guzman about him in the discipline department

[bradlee180]

A return to same day weigh-ins would take care of this bull$#!t.
Same day weigh-ins worked fine for over a century till the mid-80s and Dr. Flip Homansky's terrible desision to push for day before weigh-ins. Just a few years back, Flip reversed himself and would like to see a return to same-day weigh-ins because he can see he was wrong, and could not foresee how fighters would try to take advantage of this. I don't know how this educated fight-doctor couldn't foresee that; fighters are opportunistic, give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

On a same-day weigh-in, you fight in the weight class you belong in, and NOBODY dehydrates 18 lbs on a same-day weigh-in and fights for a Title that they're actually 3 weight classes above which is the norm nowadays. It's a miracle they don't land in the hospital and can fight at all after enduring such severe dehydration...

[boyla]

A return to same day weigh-ins would take care of this bull$#!t.
Same day weigh-ins worked fine for over a century till the mid-80s and Dr. Flip Homansky's terrible desision to push for day before weigh-ins. Just a few years back, Flip reversed himself and would like to see a return to same-day weigh-ins because he can see he was wrong, and could not foresee how fighters would try to take advantage of this. I don't know how this educated fight-doctor couldn't foresee that; fighters are opportunistic, give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

On a same-day weigh-in, you fight in the weight class you belong in, and NOBODY dehydrates 18 lbs on a same-day weigh-in and fights for a Title that they're actually 3 weight classes above which is the norm nowadays. It's a miracle they don't land in the hospital and can fight at all after enduring such severe dehydration...

Dehydration, especially in regards to the brain was linked to brain damage in boxing, and possibly deaths, this is why there is no same day weigh ins, personally I would like to see a reduction in the number of weight classes.

You can not lose a belt/title by being overweight, someone has to beat just my 2c

[IamInuit]

A return to same day weigh-ins would take care of this bull$#!t.
Same day weigh-ins worked fine for over a century till the mid-80s and Dr. Flip Homansky's terrible desision to push for day before weigh-ins. Just a few years back, Flip reversed himself and would like to see a return to same-day weigh-ins because he can see he was wrong, and could not foresee how fighters would try to take advantage of this. I don't know how this educated fight-doctor couldn't foresee that; fighters are opportunistic, give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

On a same-day weigh-in, you fight in the weight class you belong in, and NOBODY dehydrates 18 lbs on a same-day weigh-in and fights for a Title that they're actually 3 weight classes above which is the norm nowadays. It's a miracle they don't land in the hospital and can fight at all after enduring such severe dehydration...

Dehydration, especially in regards to the brain was linked to brain damage in boxing, and possibly deaths, this is why there is no same day weigh ins, personally I would like to see a reduction in the number of weight classes.

You can not lose a belt/title by being overweight, someone has to beat just my 2c

If you cant make weight then don't fight at the weight you cant make. There is no evidence that a person who should be fighting at the weight suffers from same day weigh ins.

[boyla]

If you believe being severely dehydrated to make weight leads a higher risk of brain damage who am I to argue

[bradlee180]

Dehydration, especially in regards to the brain was linked to brain damage in boxing, and possibly deaths, this is why there is no same day weigh ins, personally I would like to see a reduction in the number of weight classes.

The point is you don't dehydrate at all because you fight where your weight really is instead on a same day weigh-in. That's how it used to be done. For example, plenty of Sugar Ray Robinson's Middleweight Title fights, Ray weighed in at 154 or 156 lbs, several pounds under the 160 limit.

No dehydration, like Heavyweights for example, leads to far fewer serious head injuries because Heavyweights don't dehydrate. Fewer serious head injuries even though Heavyweights hit with far greater power than these little dehydrated guys who lead the pack in ring deaths.

[bradlee180]

I think Pacquiao's the only guy that fights in the class that he weighs in at. Between fights, he walks around at about 150 lbs.
He weighs in at about 146 at the day before weigh-in. On fight night, he's 148 lbs but that's wearing his gloves, trunks, and boxing boots.
When he used to dehydrate to make 135, he'd be 144 lbs the next night. Not dehydrating improved his performance as he was in the zone for a couple of years up till the Margarito fight in Nov 2010. Then as he aged, he began to erode...

Punch resistance goes up when a man doesn't dehydrate. That's what happened to Cotto. He took a better punch when he went up to 147 and from harder hitters...

[Spicoli]

I don't think it's accidental anymore. Wonder if he weighed in with that stupid huge hat on?

Does garcia have a history of missing weight? I'm fan of the guy but two pounds is still two pounds to many

I think he has a couple of times, one a last minute sub and some stepping stone trinket. Also pretty sure he outweighed a shot Pastrana by at least a flyweight. Its a joke, and a bad trend now. Trinket jumping made easier complete with training wheels.

[armin]

I don't think it's accidental anymore. Wonder if he weighed in with that stupid huge hat on?

Does garcia have a history of missing weight? I'm fan of the guy but two pounds is still two pounds to many

I think he has a couple of times, one a last minute sub and some stepping stone trinket. Also pretty sure he outweighed a shot Pastrana by at least a flyweight. Its a joke, and a bad trend now. Trinket jumping made easier complete with training wheels.

Dam that sucks if that's the case, surprised tho since this is the first I've heard of it and been following him for a few years.

[IamInuit]

I don't think it's accidental anymore. Wonder if he weighed in with that stupid huge hat on?

Lol a horse could wear that hat.

I agree that this seems like the new normal lately when someone is going to move up. Boxers are very cognoscente of the fact that boxing fans have short memories.