Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

[Beanflicker]

if my gran did steroids and didnt train after several weeks of her cycle she would be able to bench press more than she would have done not on the cycle,

How did you reach that conclusion?

[Master]

When was Evander Holyfield’s prime?

[erics44]

if my gran did steroids and didnt train after several weeks of her cycle she would be able to bench press more than she would have done not on the cycle,

How did you reach that conclusion?

its just a fact, there are short term immediate benefits to taking steroids

you start a cycle today, you could take dbol and it would kick in after a week or two

do a bench press before you start see how much you can lift

do nothing else, eat macdonalds and pizzas everyday, do nothing but watch TV

after a couple of weeks of the cycle do another bench press see how much your lift has improved, continue taking it, add a bit of test to your cycle, do another bench press, when the test kicks in do another bench press

see how much more you can lift

[Beanflicker]

its just a fact, there are short term immediate benefits to taking steroids

you start a cycle today, you could take dbol and it would kick in after a week or two

do a bench press before you start see how much you can lift

do nothing else, eat macdonalds and pizzas everyday, do nothing but watch TV

after a couple of weeks of the cycle do another bench press see how much your lift has improved, continue taking it, add a bit of test to your cycle, do another bench press, when the test kicks in do another bench press

see how much more you can lift

I've never seen any science or even any first-hand info from roid users that would support that.

Taking steroids and sitting at home doing nothing and eating shitty will make you a fat motherfucker, it's not going to help you.

[erics44]

its just a fact, there are short term immediate benefits to taking steroids

you start a cycle today, you could take dbol and it would kick in after a week or two

do a bench press before you start see how much you can lift

do nothing else, eat macdonalds and pizzas everyday, do nothing but watch TV

after a couple of weeks of the cycle do another bench press see how much your lift has improved, continue taking it, add a bit of test to your cycle, do another bench press, when the test kicks in do another bench press

see how much more you can lift

I've never seen any science or even any first-hand info from roid users that would support that.

Taking steroids and sitting at home doing nothing and eating shitty will make you a fat motherfucker, it's not going to help you.

not taking steroids and sitting at home doing nothing and eating shitty will make you a fat motherfucker, its not going to help you

steroids dont make you fat, eating too much and not excersizing makes you fat

steroids improve your performance and you dont have to do anything other than take steroids to improve your performance

if you take steroids and have the right exercise/diet plan the effects can be long term

and i dont even know why we are talking about this anyway, professional boxers do have the right training plan and diets so they will make the most of the roids

[Beanflicker]

steroids dont make you fat, eating too much and not excersizing makes you fat

steroids improve your performance and you dont have to do anything other than take steroids to improve your performance

We're talking about this because the statements you are making (like the ones above) are simply not true. Steroids promote the retention of water and fat.

Muscle is formed from the breaking down of the muscle (caused by exertion of the muscle through exercise) and the rebuilding. If you don't do anything, you're not going to have any gains and you'll suffer through the side effects anyway.

[erics44]

steroids dont make you fat, eating too much and not excersizing makes you fat

steroids improve your performance and you dont have to do anything other than take steroids to improve your performance

We're talking about this because the statements you are making (like the ones above) are simply not true. Steroids promote the retention of water and fat.

Muscle is formed from the breaking down of the muscle (caused by exertion of the muscle through exercise) and the rebuilding. If you don't do anything, you're not going to have any gains and you'll suffer through the side effects anyway.

steroids dont promote the retention of fat

a lot of people get water bloated when on steroids yes, this is short term, when you stop taking them the water goes

you will only put fat on if you eat more callories than you burn (whether you take steroids or not)

if you dont do anything whilst on steroids you wont have any muscle gains you are right but you will see strength gains

you are at risk from the side effects how ever you approach it, your risk may increase for many reasons and one is if your diet isnt clean

I have been going to gyms from an early age, i have gone through periods of bodybuilding, i have never done steroids but i have considered it a researched it many times and i have mixed with people who have, still do

i was just talking to someone I have known for years last night in the gym about his current cycle and the strength gains he is getting

a lot of people start cycles with dbol (fast acting pills), which after a short time they see big (short term) strength gains (not long term muscle gains)

what i am saying is true, if my gran went on a cycle of steroids and did nothing she would see temporary strength gains