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    Default Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    my roided gran would batter my non roided gran
    Not really. Steroids help you to better recover from workouts and use the food you eat to better service your body. If your granny shot up steroids without any training regimine or clean eating, she'd put on fat, her blood pressure and cholesterol would go through the roof and she'd be bloated from water retention.

    They aren't the magic bullet that people think they are.
    naa man

    if my gran did steroids and didnt train after several weeks of her cycle she would be able to bench press more than she would have done not on the cycle, perhaps only a few lbs if she didnt train correctly

    steroids improve your performance

    not training on steriods doesnt make you fat unless you eat more than normal, you might appear bigger because of water retention

    colesterol, blood pressure, heart rate may all increase depending on her reaction

    long term steroids arent a magic bullet unless you take them and approach it right, you dont automatically get bigger muscles unless you eat right and train right, whilst taking steroids tho you will be able to lift more
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    Default Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    if my gran did steroids and didnt train after several weeks of her cycle she would be able to bench press more than she would have done not on the cycle,
    How did you reach that conclusion?

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    Default Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

    When was Evander Holyfield’s prime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
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    if my gran did steroids and didnt train after several weeks of her cycle she would be able to bench press more than she would have done not on the cycle,
    How did you reach that conclusion?
    its just a fact, there are short term immediate benefits to taking steroids

    you start a cycle today, you could take dbol and it would kick in after a week or two

    do a bench press before you start see how much you can lift

    do nothing else, eat macdonalds and pizzas everyday, do nothing but watch TV

    after a couple of weeks of the cycle do another bench press see how much your lift has improved, continue taking it, add a bit of test to your cycle, do another bench press, when the test kicks in do another bench press

    see how much more you can lift
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    its just a fact, there are short term immediate benefits to taking steroids

    you start a cycle today, you could take dbol and it would kick in after a week or two

    do a bench press before you start see how much you can lift

    do nothing else, eat macdonalds and pizzas everyday, do nothing but watch TV

    after a couple of weeks of the cycle do another bench press see how much your lift has improved, continue taking it, add a bit of test to your cycle, do another bench press, when the test kicks in do another bench press

    see how much more you can lift
    I've never seen any science or even any first-hand info from roid users that would support that.

    Taking steroids and sitting at home doing nothing and eating shitty will make you a fat motherfucker, it's not going to help you.

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    Default Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    its just a fact, there are short term immediate benefits to taking steroids

    you start a cycle today, you could take dbol and it would kick in after a week or two

    do a bench press before you start see how much you can lift

    do nothing else, eat macdonalds and pizzas everyday, do nothing but watch TV

    after a couple of weeks of the cycle do another bench press see how much your lift has improved, continue taking it, add a bit of test to your cycle, do another bench press, when the test kicks in do another bench press

    see how much more you can lift
    I've never seen any science or even any first-hand info from roid users that would support that.

    Taking steroids and sitting at home doing nothing and eating shitty will make you a fat motherfucker, it's not going to help you.
    not taking steroids and sitting at home doing nothing and eating shitty will make you a fat motherfucker, its not going to help you

    steroids dont make you fat, eating too much and not excersizing makes you fat

    steroids improve your performance and you dont have to do anything other than take steroids to improve your performance

    if you take steroids and have the right exercise/diet plan the effects can be long term

    and i dont even know why we are talking about this anyway, professional boxers do have the right training plan and diets so they will make the most of the roids
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    Default Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post

    steroids dont make you fat, eating too much and not excersizing makes you fat

    steroids improve your performance and you dont have to do anything other than take steroids to improve your performance
    We're talking about this because the statements you are making (like the ones above) are simply not true. Steroids promote the retention of water and fat.

    Muscle is formed from the breaking down of the muscle (caused by exertion of the muscle through exercise) and the rebuilding. If you don't do anything, you're not going to have any gains and you'll suffer through the side effects anyway.

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    Default Re: Lets end the Mike Tyson debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post

    steroids dont make you fat, eating too much and not excersizing makes you fat

    steroids improve your performance and you dont have to do anything other than take steroids to improve your performance
    We're talking about this because the statements you are making (like the ones above) are simply not true. Steroids promote the retention of water and fat.

    Muscle is formed from the breaking down of the muscle (caused by exertion of the muscle through exercise) and the rebuilding. If you don't do anything, you're not going to have any gains and you'll suffer through the side effects anyway.
    steroids dont promote the retention of fat

    a lot of people get water bloated when on steroids yes, this is short term, when you stop taking them the water goes

    you will only put fat on if you eat more callories than you burn (whether you take steroids or not)

    if you dont do anything whilst on steroids you wont have any muscle gains you are right but you will see strength gains

    you are at risk from the side effects how ever you approach it, your risk may increase for many reasons and one is if your diet isnt clean

    I have been going to gyms from an early age, i have gone through periods of bodybuilding, i have never done steroids but i have considered it a researched it many times and i have mixed with people who have, still do

    i was just talking to someone I have known for years last night in the gym about his current cycle and the strength gains he is getting

    a lot of people start cycles with dbol (fast acting pills), which after a short time they see big (short term) strength gains (not long term muscle gains)

    what i am saying is true, if my gran went on a cycle of steroids and did nothing she would see temporary strength gains
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