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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Here's the huge flaw in the logic of all this Broner bashing: you guys are all asuming that Broner would fight everyone the same way he fought Gavin Rees and Malignaggi.

    Broner stood still in front of those guys, in all likelyhood, because they were not known as big punchers (goes triple for Paulie). You guys are going out on a limb assuming that Broner would employ the same tactics against a guy like Matthyse, Garcia, or anyone else with a respectable punch.

    Do you guys honestly believe you're uncovering some kind of secret, or that you have more insight into boxing tactics than the professionals?
    It's just a bit of a stretch imo, to suggest that Broner is literally letting those guys hit him over and over because they aren't powerful. Who the hell does that at world level? He fought Ponce de leon the same way and easily could have lost that one. There are guys who know how to box and punch you know, he's not always going to have the luxury of fighting one or the other. I'm also not sure at all what the last bit is supposed to mean Until he is actually put in the ring with a big puncher around his size, how do you know that "the professionals" aren't just as aware of his shortcomings as we are pretending to be? It remains to be seen how he would fight someone like Matthyse or Garcia, and I'm hopeful that we'll find out how he deals with that soon enough.
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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    To be honest he's been in with Rees and Paulie. Neither can really dig and neither are really natural Welters. Broner was as active as he needed to be to win the fight. Once the level of opposition improves, so will Broner imo.

    I don't like the guy but he fought this way against Rees and Paulie purely because he didn't respect them. That kind of mindset might catch up with him eventually, but for now, there's still no blueprint. That said, he could simply get stretched out by some of the 140's/147's out there - but something tells me Broner has many more levels to go to.
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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    To be honest he's been in with Rees and Paulie. Neither can really dig and neither are really natural Welters. Broner was as active as he needed to be to win the fight. Once the level of opposition improves, so will Broner imo.

    I don't like the guy but he fought this way against Rees and Paulie purely because he didn't respect them. That kind of mindset might catch up with him eventually, but for now, there's still no blueprint. That said, he could simply get stretched out by some of the 140's/147's out there - but something tells me Broner has many more levels to go to.
    It's certainly possible you're right, but when he's losing rounds in the process you'd think he would gain a little bit of respect surely It's not as though Paulie just couldn't hurt him and that's that, he was giving Broner a lot to think about and it didn't seem to light a fire under the guy at any point. The fight was a lot closer than it should have been if Broner does in fact have these other gears which he appears he should.

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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    To be honest he's been in with Rees and Paulie. Neither can really dig and neither are really natural Welters. Broner was as active as he needed to be to win the fight. Once the level of opposition improves, so will Broner imo.

    I don't like the guy but he fought this way against Rees and Paulie purely because he didn't respect them. That kind of mindset might catch up with him eventually, but for now, there's still no blueprint. That said, he could simply get stretched out by some of the 140's/147's out there - but something tells me Broner has many more levels to go to.
    It's certainly possible you're right, but when he's losing rounds in the process you'd think he would gain a little bit of respect surely It's not as though Paulie just couldn't hurt him and that's that, he was giving Broner a lot to think about and it didn't seem to light a fire under the guy at any point. The fight was a lot closer than it should have been if Broner does in fact have these other gears which he appears he should.
    Yeah it was bizarre to watch really. The fight was as close as Broner let it get really. Maybe there is something in the story about him asking Paulie (a few years ago mind) how he manages to go 12 rounds all the time. Like Broner is worried about taking too much out of the tank?

    Whatever it was, it was strange to see because the difference level in talent was quite wide imo and i thought he would have wanted to push for the stoppage or at least gone for a shut out.

    For the record, i had Broner winning fairly comfortably. I think i scored it 116-112. There was certainly some rounds which were open for interpretation but i felt that on a few occasions Paulie was winning the round on work rate alone, and then Broner would snap his head back a couple of times. Fine margins anyway, and any elite level fighter should really be putting daylight between himself and guys like Paulie.

    Be interesting to see what he does next.
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    Default Re: The Blueprint to beat Broner.

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    To be honest he's been in with Rees and Paulie. Neither can really dig and neither are really natural Welters. Broner was as active as he needed to be to win the fight. Once the level of opposition improves, so will Broner imo.

    I don't like the guy but he fought this way against Rees and Paulie purely because he didn't respect them. That kind of mindset might catch up with him eventually, but for now, there's still no blueprint. That said, he could simply get stretched out by some of the 140's/147's out there - but something tells me Broner has many more levels to go to.
    Good to see somebody with some sense.

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