David Tua vs Alexander Ustinov

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David Tua has returned

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the thing that jumps out on that article is the fact Vitali is interested in fighting tua

shows what ambition he has left and confirms he will never be in a meaningful fight again

Yep. However Tua has scarcely been in a bad fight.

I still think Vitali Haye should be his big fight before retirement.

thats true but you can see from the barrett fights he is a long way past his best, any decent hw with any hope of a title fight would beat barrett even when barrett was at his very best

vitali will never fight haye

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David Tua has returned

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the thing that jumps out on that article is the fact Vitali is interested in fighting tua

shows what ambition he has left and confirms he will never be in a meaningful fight again

Yep. However Tua has scarcely been in a bad fight.

I still think Vitali Haye should be his big fight before retirement.

thats true but you can see from the barrett fights he is a long way past his best, any decent hw with any hope of a title fight would beat barrett even when barrett was at his very best

vitali will never fight haye

I agree, it's very unfortunate.

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David Tua has returned

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the thing that jumps out on that article is the fact Vitali is interested in fighting tua

shows what ambition he has left and confirms he will never be in a meaningful fight again

Yep. However Tua has scarcely been in a bad fight.

I still think Vitali Haye should be his big fight before retirement.

thats true but you can see from the barrett fights he is a long way past his best, any decent hw with any hope of a title fight would beat barrett even when barrett was at his very best

vitali will never fight haye

I agree, it's very unfortunate.

I dont get it, after Hayes dismal, boring performance v Wladamir, why would anyone even be interested? It would be more of the same.

Its not like he beat, hurt or showed promise against Wlad and Vitali wants revenge, like against Sanders, or Peter (who was holding a title) and its not like he has done a great deal to deserve a shot since.

[Vendettos]

David Tua has returned

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the thing that jumps out on that article is the fact Vitali is interested in fighting tua

shows what ambition he has left and confirms he will never be in a meaningful fight again

Yep. However Tua has scarcely been in a bad fight.

I still think Vitali Haye should be his big fight before retirement.

thats true but you can see from the barrett fights he is a long way past his best, any decent hw with any hope of a title fight would beat barrett even when barrett was at his very best

vitali will never fight haye

I agree, it's very unfortunate.

I dont get it, after Hayes dismal, boring performance v Wladamir, why would anyone even be interested? It would be more of the same.

Its not like he beat, hurt or showed promise against Wlad and Vitali wants revenge, like against Sanders, or Peter (who was holding a title) and its not like he has done a great deal to deserve a shot since.

And Francesco Pianeta has done enough?

[erics44]

David Tua has returned

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the thing that jumps out on that article is the fact Vitali is interested in fighting tua

shows what ambition he has left and confirms he will never be in a meaningful fight again

Yep. However Tua has scarcely been in a bad fight.

I still think Vitali Haye should be his big fight before retirement.

thats true but you can see from the barrett fights he is a long way past his best, any decent hw with any hope of a title fight would beat barrett even when barrett was at his very best

vitali will never fight haye

I agree, it's very unfortunate.

I dont get it, after Hayes dismal, boring performance v Wladamir, why would anyone even be interested? It would be more of the same.

Its not like he beat, hurt or showed promise against Wlad and Vitali wants revenge, like against Sanders, or Peter (who was holding a title) and its not like he has done a great deal to deserve a shot since.

you are one of the most vocal (textual) posters about haye in a negative way

it is clear you dont like him

the rest of the world would like to see him fight vitali and even wlad again (excluding lyle)

and vitali has been very vocal about haye since wlad, making several promises

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David Tua has returned

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the thing that jumps out on that article is the fact Vitali is interested in fighting tua

shows what ambition he has left and confirms he will never be in a meaningful fight again

Yep. However Tua has scarcely been in a bad fight.

I still think Vitali Haye should be his big fight before retirement.

thats true but you can see from the barrett fights he is a long way past his best, any decent hw with any hope of a title fight would beat barrett even when barrett was at his very best

vitali will never fight haye

I agree, it's very unfortunate.

I dont get it, after Hayes dismal, boring performance v Wladamir, why would anyone even be interested? It would be more of the same.

Its not like he beat, hurt or showed promise against Wlad and Vitali wants revenge, like against Sanders, or Peter (who was holding a title) and its not like he has done a great deal to deserve a shot since.

Because Haye is still a very sellable product. Get it signed and let Haye's gob do the rest, it still makes financial sense. My toe was hurt against Wlad, but this time....

Haye might even win! Setting up another fight with Wlad which of course will sell.

[Beanflicker]

vitali will never fight haye

Why would he? He's 40-something and retired.

[erics44]

vitali will never fight haye

Why would he? He's 40-something and retired.

he did make a few promises but if he's changed his mind then thats fine

[Vendettos]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

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Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

[erics44]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

I used to think that vitali's second time and champ has been quite impressive, a lot more impressive than people make out anyway

I just read your post where you have listed the 4 best people he has beaten and I have changed my mind

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Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

I used to think that vitali's second time and champ has been quite impressive, a lot more impressive than people make out anyway

I just read your post where you have listed the 4 best people he has beaten and I have changed my mind

Doesnt change the fact they were the best available at the time though does it. He hasnt avoided anyone other than his brother. Those names were either belt holders or undefeated. They were the most dangerous available opponents.

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Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

Sanders was past it
Peter folded when he came to big fights
Arreola would have been better if he was in shape

SOLIS? Are you high? He faked a god damn injury after he was hit by the slightest punch.


The solis fight was fairly recent, how is he the best available?


Briggs is almost the same height and he can bang, and he was active, not against the highest quality but he had 5 fight in 10 months, including Vitali.

He knocked out the other 4 in the first round.

And just generally he has always been dangerous +a former world champion.

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Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

Sanders was past it
Peter folded when he came to big fights
Arreola would have been better if he was in shape

SOLIS? Are you high? He faked a god damn injury after he was hit by the slightest punch.


The solis fight was fairly recent, how is he the best available?


Briggs is almost the same height and he can bang, and he was active, not against the highest quality but he had 5 fight in 10 months, including Vitali.

He knocked out the other 4 in the first round.

And just generally he has always been dangerous +a former world champion.

Sanders was coming off absolutely obliterating Wlad and was suddenly the most dangerous fighter in the world. Vitali was his very next fight!

Peter had only been beaten by Wlad but dropped him a couple of times and then went on to win the WBC belt.

Arreolas shape is his own fault but he was looking exciting knocking people out when not many other heavies were and he was undefeated.

Solis had an excellent amateur background, beating Haye along the way. He was skill full and could still go places, again, his training habits aren't Vitalis fault!

[HardCell]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

No Briggs was no waste of time. He talked the vilest shit about the brothers for YEARS on boxing forums and in interviews and got what he had coming to him: a broken face, two weeks in the hospital, and the end of his career.