David Tua vs Alexander Ustinov

[Vendettos]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

[ross]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

[erics44]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

I used to think that vitali's second time and champ has been quite impressive, a lot more impressive than people make out anyway

I just read your post where you have listed the 4 best people he has beaten and I have changed my mind

[ross]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

I used to think that vitali's second time and champ has been quite impressive, a lot more impressive than people make out anyway

I just read your post where you have listed the 4 best people he has beaten and I have changed my mind

Doesnt change the fact they were the best available at the time though does it. He hasnt avoided anyone other than his brother. Those names were either belt holders or undefeated. They were the most dangerous available opponents.

[erics44]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

I used to think that vitali's second time and champ has been quite impressive, a lot more impressive than people make out anyway

I just read your post where you have listed the 4 best people he has beaten and I have changed my mind

Doesnt change the fact they were the best available at the time though does it. He hasnt avoided anyone other than his brother. Those names were either belt holders or undefeated. They were the most dangerous available opponents.

yes youre right

there are a few fighters around now who are a threat and a much better challenge than he has had before, yet he has chosen to name tua as a posible opponent?

good luck to him if all he wants is one more easy fight, lets hope he hangs up his gloves after that tho so we see some of the ambitious boxers fight it out

[ross]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

I used to think that vitali's second time and champ has been quite impressive, a lot more impressive than people make out anyway

I just read your post where you have listed the 4 best people he has beaten and I have changed my mind

Doesnt change the fact they were the best available at the time though does it. He hasnt avoided anyone other than his brother. Those names were either belt holders or undefeated. They were the most dangerous available opponents.

yes youre right

there are a few fighters around now who are a threat and a much better challenge than he has had before, yet he has chosen to name tua as a posible opponent?

good luck to him if all he wants is one more easy fight, lets hope he hangs up his gloves after that tho so we see some of the ambitious boxers fight it out

Out of interest, who do you rank as the top 5 most ambitious heavyweights in the world over the last 12 months?

[erics44]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

I used to think that vitali's second time and champ has been quite impressive, a lot more impressive than people make out anyway

I just read your post where you have listed the 4 best people he has beaten and I have changed my mind

Doesnt change the fact they were the best available at the time though does it. He hasnt avoided anyone other than his brother. Those names were either belt holders or undefeated. They were the most dangerous available opponents.

yes youre right

there are a few fighters around now who are a threat and a much better challenge than he has had before, yet he has chosen to name tua as a posible opponent?

good luck to him if all he wants is one more easy fight, lets hope he hangs up his gloves after that tho so we see some of the ambitious boxers fight it out

Out of interest, who do you rank as the top 5 most ambitious heavyweights in the world over the last 12 months?

perhaps for another thread

i wouldnt rank david tua with that description tho, neither would i rank him with any kind of challenge to any "top" heavyweight

would you?

[Spicoli]

Sometimes I think the huge profile ko vs Ruiz was a jinx on Tua. He just never really developed past loading up for the one big shot. Ustinov is a behemoth and I'm not sure it's a smart move for a 40 yr old Tua who's chin is showing cracks to try to retrieve his glory by standing in there.

[El Kabong]

Again with the Haye vs Vitali fight .....Vitali offered to fight Haye and Haye chose to fight Valuev. Haye could fight Vitali but he'd still lose, Haye's chickenshit performance vs Wladimir tells you all you need to know about how Haye will fair vs any heavyweight who can punch.

Haye will fight Tyson Fury then he'll do what he always does run his stupid fucking mouth, both of them will.


As for Tua of course older heavies will try to come back to get one more title shot, it always happens, I don't know why people are so surprised. I wouldn't be shocked if Sam Peter at some point comes back or Valuev or Ruiz....it's just boxing. If Tua wins and wins a fight vs a top contender he'll more than likely get a title shot, but that's a lot of IF's for a guy that old and with that style.

[ross]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

I used to think that vitali's second time and champ has been quite impressive, a lot more impressive than people make out anyway

I just read your post where you have listed the 4 best people he has beaten and I have changed my mind

Doesnt change the fact they were the best available at the time though does it. He hasnt avoided anyone other than his brother. Those names were either belt holders or undefeated. They were the most dangerous available opponents.

yes youre right

there are a few fighters around now who are a threat and a much better challenge than he has had before, yet he has chosen to name tua as a posible opponent?

good luck to him if all he wants is one more easy fight, lets hope he hangs up his gloves after that tho so we see some of the ambitious boxers fight it out

Out of interest, who do you rank as the top 5 most ambitious heavyweights in the world over the last 12 months?

perhaps for another thread

i wouldnt rank david tua with that description tho, neither would i rank him with any kind of challenge to any "top" heavyweight

would you?

Ok

[Vendettos]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

Sanders was past it
Peter folded when he came to big fights
Arreola would have been better if he was in shape

SOLIS? Are you high? He faked a god damn injury after he was hit by the slightest punch.


The solis fight was fairly recent, how is he the best available?


Briggs is almost the same height and he can bang, and he was active, not against the highest quality but he had 5 fight in 10 months, including Vitali.

He knocked out the other 4 in the first round.

And just generally he has always been dangerous +a former world champion.

[ross]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

Sanders was past it
Peter folded when he came to big fights
Arreola would have been better if he was in shape

SOLIS? Are you high? He faked a god damn injury after he was hit by the slightest punch.


The solis fight was fairly recent, how is he the best available?


Briggs is almost the same height and he can bang, and he was active, not against the highest quality but he had 5 fight in 10 months, including Vitali.

He knocked out the other 4 in the first round.

And just generally he has always been dangerous +a former world champion.

Sanders was coming off absolutely obliterating Wlad and was suddenly the most dangerous fighter in the world. Vitali was his very next fight!

Peter had only been beaten by Wlad but dropped him a couple of times and then went on to win the WBC belt.

Arreolas shape is his own fault but he was looking exciting knocking people out when not many other heavies were and he was undefeated.

Solis had an excellent amateur background, beating Haye along the way. He was skill full and could still go places, again, his training habits aren't Vitalis fault!

[erics44]

Again with the Haye vs Vitali fight .....Vitali offered to fight Haye and Haye chose to fight Valuev. Haye could fight Vitali but he'd still lose, Haye's chickenshit performance vs Wladimir tells you all you need to know about how Haye will fair vs any heavyweight who can punch.

Haye will fight Tyson Fury then he'll do what he always does run his stupid fucking mouth, both of them will.


As for Tua of course older heavies will try to come back to get one more title shot, it always happens, I don't know why people are so surprised. I wouldn't be shocked if Sam Peter at some point comes back or Valuev or Ruiz....it's just boxing. If Tua wins and wins a fight vs a top contender he'll more than likely get a title shot, but that's a lot of IF's for a guy that old and with that style.

you are clutching at straws

[HardCell]

Vitali doesn't want it, Haye stops the slower, less skillful Klitschko, fact is has fought only 1 decent fighter in 10 years.

Since the Lewis fight (hugely declined Lewis) he's fought only Shannon Briggs that I'd say had a chance and he destroyed him.

Fact is, he's never fought anyone as quick as Haye is, and his lack of fights against talented fighters like Haye leads me to believe that Haye probably stops the 41 year old.


The klitschkos are transparent, you can see what they do, Haye chased Wlad for 2 years and he only accepted when Haye got a title.

Then Vitali offered him a shot for almost 0 money, when he knew clearly that Haye was going to fight Chisora for the grudge match and a good pay.

Then Klitschko says ok beat Chisora and I will fight you, hoping Haye goes through a war or even loses to Chisora.

Then Haye blasts Chisora out of there, a guy that gave the 41 year old Klitschko some problems and also noting that Chisora is one of the few fighters Klitschko couldn't stop, so Vitali thinks "fuck that" and starts saying "I offered him the fight, he fought Chisora instead".


Haye stops Vitali inside 6.

Come on now...

Sanders, Peter, Solis, Arreola all had a good chance to upset Vitali. They were the most dangerous guys in the division at the time he fought them. Briggs was a complete waste of time.

No Briggs was no waste of time. He talked the vilest shit about the brothers for YEARS on boxing forums and in interviews and got what he had coming to him: a broken face, two weeks in the hospital, and the end of his career.

[El Kabong]

you are clutching at straws

How so?