Fury is a joke.

[Memphis]

Ross has to tow that undefeated line because its the only stick he realistically has to beat Haye (or anyone thinking Haye wins or Fury is a joke) with.

The same reason he brings up Lolenga Mock every time, he's obligated to. The fact that Haye then went on to chin plenty of cruisers and heavies winning multiple world titles in both weights isn't half as provocative as 'yeah but he got chinned off a light heavy'

Its a basic argument but the only one he really has

[brocktonblockbust]

I think Fury is kind of tough though. Though he has been dropped solidly several times, he gets up and through his gangling long arms and clutching techniques he recovers well and then fires back. I will give him that.

Thing is if Haye puts him down I don't think he'll get the fuck UP.

[ross]

Ross has to tow that undefeated line because its the only stick he realistically has to beat Haye (or anyone thinking Haye wins or Fury is a joke) with.

The same reason he brings up Lolenga Mock every time, he's obligated to. The fact that Haye then went on to chin plenty of cruisers and heavies winning multiple world titles in both weights isn't half as provocative as 'yeah but he got chinned off a light heavy'

Its a basic argument but the only one he really has

Supermiddle

Its not just an argument its a fact! You are criticising Fury for getting dropped but at the same point in Hayes career he had not only been dropped a few times (by fighters who aren't ranked) but been stopped. Fury is showing so far he's tougher, so he does have promise.

[bzkfn]

Supermiddle

Its not just an argument its a fact! You are criticising Fury for getting dropped but at the same point in Hayes career he had not only been dropped a few times (by fighters who aren't ranked) but been stopped. Fury is showing so far he's tougher, so he does have promise.

You really are a fool. Who had he been stopped by Ross? An ex World Champion in only his 11th fight. Fury hadn't been anywhere near an ex World Champion by his 11th fight.

Also, you keep banging on about Fury being undefeated, but if it hadn't been for some bent refereeing, he'd have a loss on his record to John McDermott.

[erics44]

Supermiddle

Its not just an argument its a fact! You are criticising Fury for getting dropped but at the same point in Hayes career he had not only been dropped a few times (by fighters who aren't ranked) but been stopped. Fury is showing so far he's tougher, so he does have promise.

You really are a fool. Who had he been stopped by Ross? An ex World Champion in only his 11th fight. Fury hadn't been anywhere near an ex World Champion by his 11th fight.

Also, you keep banging on about Fury being undefeated, but if it hadn't been for some bent refereeing, he'd have a loss on his record to John McDermott.

off the top of my head i think mcdermott was furys 11th fight

[Vendettos]

Supermiddle

Its not just an argument its a fact! You are criticising Fury for getting dropped but at the same point in Hayes career he had not only been dropped a few times (by fighters who aren't ranked) but been stopped. Fury is showing so far he's tougher, so he does have promise.

You really are a fool. Who had he been stopped by Ross? An ex World Champion in only his 11th fight. Fury hadn't been anywhere near an ex World Champion by his 11th fight.

Also, you keep banging on about Fury being undefeated, but if it hadn't been for some bent refereeing, he'd have a loss on his record to John McDermott.

Yeah and Haye is a cruiser weight so getting dropped by cruisers is not impossible.


How does a 6'9" guy get dropped by a cruiser? Not only that, an old cruiser, fuck an old cruiser that isn't powerful.

I mean he's bigger than Wlad and Vitali and when they fight cruisers like Haye, Mormeck, Adamek, etc, they barely get close enough to land anything, let alone nearly flatten them.

Seriously, ban this retard.

[Fenster]

Ross you're seriously slipping mate, eight pages before Lolenga Mock was brought up

[Memphis]

Ross has to tow that undefeated line because its the only stick he realistically has to beat Haye (or anyone thinking Haye wins or Fury is a joke) with.

The same reason he brings up Lolenga Mock every time, he's obligated to. The fact that Haye then went on to chin plenty of cruisers and heavies winning multiple world titles in both weights isn't half as provocative as 'yeah but he got chinned off a light heavy'

Its a basic argument but the only one he really has

Supermiddle

Its not just an argument its a fact! You are criticising Fury for getting dropped but at the same point in Hayes career he had not only been dropped a few times (by fighters who aren't ranked) but been stopped. Fury is showing so far he's tougher, so he does have promise.

Do you actually believe what you say? Fury is proving he's tougher by going longer without getting beat?

So if he'd fought the Polish cabbie in his first or second fight and got put on his arse that would prove that Haye, at the same time in their careers, was tougher?

fucking mental!

[Vendettos]

Ross has to tow that undefeated line because its the only stick he realistically has to beat Haye (or anyone thinking Haye wins or Fury is a joke) with.

The same reason he brings up Lolenga Mock every time, he's obligated to. The fact that Haye then went on to chin plenty of cruisers and heavies winning multiple world titles in both weights isn't half as provocative as 'yeah but he got chinned off a light heavy'

Its a basic argument but the only one he really has

Supermiddle

Its not just an argument its a fact! You are criticising Fury for getting dropped but at the same point in Hayes career he had not only been dropped a few times (by fighters who aren't ranked) but been stopped. Fury is showing so far he's tougher, so he does have promise.

Do you actually believe what you say? Fury is proving he's tougher by going longer without getting beat?

So if he'd fought the Polish cabbie in his first or second fight and got put on his arse that would prove that Haye, at the same time in their careers, was tougher?

fucking mental!

He's a fucking idiot, don't waste your time even trying to process his posts mate.

[ross]

He didnt just get dropped he actually got beat by 40 year old Carl Thompson who was bought out of retirement, similar to Price getting beaten by Tony Thompson.

You all bit like idiots at Furys daft price split statement. Who is more stupid? Fury or those who believed him?

Hes certainly still the most talked about heavy.

[erics44]

He didnt just get dropped he actually got beat by 40 year old Carl Thompson who was bought out of retirement, similar to Price getting beaten by Tony Thompson.

You all bit like idiots at Furys daft price split statement. Who is more stupid? Fury or those who believed him?

Hes certainly still the most talked about heavy.

he does get his fair share, im not sure if this is necessarily true tho

[El Kabong]

He didnt just get dropped he actually got beat by 40 year old Carl Thompson who was bought out of retirement, similar to Price getting beaten by Tony Thompson.

You all bit like idiots at Furys daft price split statement. Who is more stupid? Fury or those who believed him?

Hes certainly still the most talked about heavy.

he does get his fair share, im not sure if this is necessarily true tho

I believe ross meant "He's the heavyweight that talks the most"

[ryanman]

He didnt just get dropped he actually got beat by 40 year old Carl Thompson who was bought out of retirement, similar to Price getting beaten by Tony Thompson.

You all bit like idiots at Furys daft price split statement. Who is more stupid? Fury or those who believed him?

Hes certainly still the most talked about heavy.

For an 11 fight novice with stamina issues Carl Thompson was just about the last person he should have faced. The man was an absolute warrior that never quit, never knew when he was beat and never stopped firing back, even when seemingly out on his feet. He outlasted Haye but in retrospect it really isn't that much of a shock, nor should it be given much prominence when assessing Haye's current abilities.

[ross]

He didnt just get dropped he actually got beat by 40 year old Carl Thompson who was bought out of retirement, similar to Price getting beaten by Tony Thompson.

You all bit like idiots at Furys daft price split statement. Who is more stupid? Fury or those who believed him?

Hes certainly still the most talked about heavy.

For an 11 fight novice with stamina issues Carl Thompson was just about the last person he should have faced. The man was an absolute warrior that never quit, never knew when he was beat and never stopped firing back, even when seemingly out on his feet. He outlasted Haye but in retrospect it really isn't that much of a shock, nor should it be given much prominence when assessing Haye's current abilities.

Im not.

Im saying when Haye was at the same stage of his career as Fury is now, he was thought of as fragile etc. Judging Fury now, a contender, yet to challenge for a title against a seasoned world campaigner isn't fair. Fury has another six and a half years before he's been a pro as long as Haye. Im fed up of people writing Fury off becuase he's shown a few vulnerabilities. He's shown he's not as vulnerable as Haye was as no one has managed to stop him yet so give him a break. He's doing what he's paid to, entertain us. Would you prefer another jab and grab boring Wlad, Hopkins, Ward?

If Fury got his shot against Wlad, he might lose, he might even get stopped but it would be fun while it lasted and Wlad would be made to fight, unlike Hayes poor effort that for the life of me I don't want to see repeated and he's done nothing to deserve another crack.

[Fenster]

He didnt just get dropped he actually got beat by 40 year old Carl Thompson who was bought out of retirement, similar to Price getting beaten by Tony Thompson.

You all bit like idiots at Furys daft price split statement. Who is more stupid? Fury or those who believed him?

Hes certainly still the most talked about heavy.

For an 11 fight novice with stamina issues Carl Thompson was just about the last person he should have faced. The man was an absolute warrior that never quit, never knew when he was beat and never stopped firing back, even when seemingly out on his feet. He outlasted Haye but in retrospect it really isn't that much of a shock, nor should it be given much prominence when assessing Haye's current abilities.

That was arguably the best thing that ever happened to Haye. By the time he fought Mormeck, not only had he purposely gone 12 rounds, but also realised that not everyone will crumble the second he lands flush.