Golovkin at super middle?

[Silkeyjoe]

Macklin was a hype job... I wouldn't put any stock in that. If Golovkin had stopped Froch or even Bute (which he probably could have stopped Bute at middle or super middle, at least) then you would have impressed me.

The only thing with this Macklin fight for Golovkin was to compare it to the Martinez fight. If Martinez takes this Golovkin challenge that's brewing, he WILL lose and he will retire shortly afterwards.

A lot of people were shocked that Martinez took the Chavez fight, and did WELL in it too. Well, did well up until the last round- but he surprised me.

But then again, perhaps we had Chavez up too high- higher than he was supposed to have been?

Lucky for Golovkin hes not tryinmg to impress you. Martinez was favorite to beat Chavez and most people, including me, thought he would do so comfortably. If Golovkin fights Martinez he will be a good fav with the bookies too and will most likely stop Martinez but given Martinez' latest performances I dont see how that would be any more impressive then stopping Macklin.

Your opinion of fighters is poor, your predictions of how fights will go are poor and your overall judgment of boxing is poor. You need to learn a lot more about the game before questioning fighters abilities.

[Onetime]

Macklin was a hype job... I wouldn't put any stock in that. If Golovkin had stopped Froch or even Bute (which he probably could have stopped Bute at middle or super middle, at least) then you would have impressed me.

The only thing with this Macklin fight for Golovkin was to compare it to the Martinez fight. If Martinez takes this Golovkin challenge that's brewing, he WILL lose and he will retire shortly afterwards.

A lot of people were shocked that Martinez took the Chavez fight, and did WELL in it too. Well, did well up until the last round- but he surprised me.

But then again, perhaps we had Chavez up too high- higher than he was supposed to have been?

Lucky for Golovkin hes not tryinmg to impress you. Martinez was favorite to beat Chavez and most people, including me, thought he would do so comfortably. If Golovkin fights Martinez he will be a good fav with the bookies too and will most likely stop Martinez but given Martinez' latest performances I dont see how that would be any more impressive then stopping Macklin.

Your opinion of fighters is poor, your predictions of how fights will go are poor and your overall judgment of boxing is poor. You need to learn a lot more about the game before questioning fighters abilities.

You GGG fans absolutely love him his resume isn't great for a 31 year old

[Silkeyjoe]

He looks incredible. Thats why I like him and think he is unstopable. Of course Martinez has a better resume but I dont think GGG loses to anyone he beat. Quillin ends up completely iced if he gets in the ring with GGG.

I didnt think Macklin would win but the way you clueless fools disregard Macklin is a joke. He is a good, very tough fighter. GGG beat him as if he was nothing.

[Onetime]

He looks incredible. Thats why I like him and think he is unstopable. Of course Martinez has a better resume but I dont think GGG loses to anyone he beat. Quillin ends up completely iced if he gets in the ring with GGG.

I didnt think Macklin would win but the way you clueless fools disregard Macklin is a joke. He is a good, very tough fighter. GGG beat him as if he was nothing.

I think you are the clueless fool, you only like GGG for one reason.

[amat]

I would rather him stay at 160, fight the other trinket holders and wait for Sergio Martinez to get healthy. Hes not huge for 160 at all Imo despite enormous power. I'm a fan of guys fighting at their best weight and 160 is clearly his best weight right now. Him versus Ward or anyone else at 168 just feels forced. He isn't going back to the gym until September so there is time for fight Geale, Quillin and Martinez before any talk of moving up can begin.

[Silkeyjoe]

I would rather him stay at 160, fight the other trinket holders and wait for Sergio Martinez to get healthy. Hes not huge for 160 at all Imo despite enormous power. I'm a fan of guys fighting at their best weight and 160 is clearly his best weight right now. Him versus Ward or anyone else at 168 just feels forced. He isn't going back to the gym until September so there is time for fight Geale, Quillin and Martinez before any talk of moving up can begin.

Yes but will they fight him? He aint gonna be any of these guys mandatorys so is gonna have to pay big to fight these guys. None of the fights would be a big PPV draw so dont see them happening.

[p4pking]

Macklin was a hype job... I wouldn't put any stock in that. If Golovkin had stopped Froch or even Bute (which he probably could have stopped Bute at middle or super middle, at least) then you would have impressed me.

The only thing with this Macklin fight for Golovkin was to compare it to the Martinez fight. If Martinez takes this Golovkin challenge that's brewing, he WILL lose and he will retire shortly afterwards.

A lot of people were shocked that Martinez took the Chavez fight, and did WELL in it too. Well, did well up until the last round- but he surprised me.

But then again, perhaps we had Chavez up too high- higher than he was supposed to have been?

Lucky for Golovkin hes not tryinmg to impress you. Martinez was favorite to beat Chavez and most people, including me, thought he would do so comfortably. If Golovkin fights Martinez he will be a good fav with the bookies too and will most likely stop Martinez but given Martinez' latest performances I dont see how that would be any more impressive then stopping Macklin.

Your opinion of fighters is poor, your predictions of how fights will go are poor and your overall judgment of boxing is poor. You need to learn a lot more about the game before questioning fighters abilities.

You GGG fans absolutely love him his resume isn't great for a 31 year old

What did Martinez resume look like at 31? Anyways, Sergio is old and broken, his body is completely failing him. We won't see him in the ring for the rest of 2013 anyways and his own promoter has just come out and said he won't put him in with Golovkin even when he does return. This means Golovkin is the man at 160.

[jehoshaphat]

Sign me up for Froch/Golovkin. I'll pay for that at the full PPV. Give me that being signed/negotiated for boxing fans' Christmas present. That fight will answer all questions and maybe some questions not dared asked.

[ross]

Golovkin may be strong in this weight but it wont transfer as easily as some seem to think if he moves up. His power will be the same, it wont increase, the difference will be even stronger fighters that will be able to take that power. Just like Abraham moving up. Take that strength advantage away and he's not left with much else. Froch would bully Golovkin.

[p4pking]

Abraham couldn't fight worth a shit in the first place, that's hardly the end all example of a hard puncher moving up in weight. Now obviously it's possible Golovkin wouldn't be nearly as effective at 168, and I don't think he should try just yet. He's not even a big middleweight. Would give him a great chance against Froch myself though.

[TitoFan]

I don't get some of the hate for Golovkin. He obviously loves to fight, will fight whoever they put in front of him, hasn't been accused of ducking anybody (on the contrary... fighters will now be ducking him), and is an exciting fighter. Yes... it might be too early to annoint him ATG just yet... but give the guy some time. Hopefully, he will get opponents who will put up a better fight than Macklin. I don't think Martinez, a great fighter but on the decline, will want any part of Golovkin. Golovkin should stay at middle for awhile and fight whoever will fight him. It's anybody's guess how he'd do at 168. Like someone said, he's not a big middleweight, and that might not translate well at 168. But any guesses are just that... guesses.

For my money, I'd love to see him in there against a Chavez Jr., without the diuretics and 30-pound post weigh-in bloating. That would be the closest thing to manslaughter you'd ever see in the ring.

[ykdadamaja]

Macklin was a hype job... I wouldn't put any stock in that. If Golovkin had stopped Froch or even Bute (which he probably could have stopped Bute at middle or super middle, at least) then you would have impressed me.

The only thing with this Macklin fight for Golovkin was to compare it to the Martinez fight. If Martinez takes this Golovkin challenge that's brewing, he WILL lose and he will retire shortly afterwards.

A lot of people were shocked that Martinez took the Chavez fight, and did WELL in it too. Well, did well up until the last round- but he surprised me.

But then again, perhaps we had Chavez up too high- higher than he was supposed to have been?

Lucky for Golovkin hes not tryinmg to impress you. Martinez was favorite to beat Chavez and most people, including me, thought he would do so comfortably. If Golovkin fights Martinez he will be a good fav with the bookies too and will most likely stop Martinez but given Martinez' latest performances I dont see how that would be any more impressive then stopping Macklin.

Your opinion of fighters is poor, your predictions of how fights will go are poor and your overall judgment of boxing is poor. You need to learn a lot more about the game before questioning fighters abilities.

GTMF out of here. I have not made a prediction on a fight in God knows when... Macklin is what he is- a hyped of scrub. He was going to be blasted by Golovkin, and we all know it. STFU!!!

I have also said Golovkin is the real deal- made a post about it to. So I don't know WTMF you're on.

[Silkeyjoe]

Macklin was a hype job... I wouldn't put any stock in that. If Golovkin had stopped Froch or even Bute (which he probably could have stopped Bute at middle or super middle, at least) then you would have impressed me.

The only thing with this Macklin fight for Golovkin was to compare it to the Martinez fight. If Martinez takes this Golovkin challenge that's brewing, he WILL lose and he will retire shortly afterwards.

A lot of people were shocked that Martinez took the Chavez fight, and did WELL in it too. Well, did well up until the last round- but he surprised me.

But then again, perhaps we had Chavez up too high- higher than he was supposed to have been?

Lucky for Golovkin hes not tryinmg to impress you. Martinez was favorite to beat Chavez and most people, including me, thought he would do so comfortably. If Golovkin fights Martinez he will be a good fav with the bookies too and will most likely stop Martinez but given Martinez' latest performances I dont see how that would be any more impressive then stopping Macklin.

Your opinion of fighters is poor, your predictions of how fights will go are poor and your overall judgment of boxing is poor. You need to learn a lot more about the game before questioning fighters abilities.

GTMF out of here. I have not made a prediction on a fight in God knows when... Macklin is what he is- a hyped of scrub. He was going to be blasted by Golovkin, and we all know it. STFU!!!

I have also said Golovkin is the real deal- made a post about it to. So I don't know WTMF you're on.

Your post is retarded. If he knocked out Froch or Bute that would have impressed you. Moron. He knocked out Bute in amateurs. He is not in the same weight division. So to impress you you have to jump up in weight and KO the top guys in the division.

[Rantcatrat]

I don't think GGG needs to step up to 168, until he can't make 160 safely. Allegedly, he comes to camp weighing 167, which means getting to 160 should be no problem for him. If the other middleweight continue to duck him, he'll have to look elsewhere, but let's wait to see if that happens. I am of the opinion that HBO made the Geale-Barker August fight for the purpose of supplying a challenger to the Golovkin/Macklin winner, especially considering that Martinez is out until Spring 2014. Also, Junior is facing Vera in September. Once he beats Vera, he's a viable opponent for GGG.

If I'm Golovkin, I wait to see if I can fight the winner of Geale/Barker or Junior/Vera, before I considering moving up in weight to face the top super middleweights. There's nothing wrong with dominating a division.

The odd man left out in the division is Kid Chocolate. Quillin hasn't had any significant wins at 160, other than against N'Jikam, who thoroughly outboxed him for much of the fight. I suspect Kid Chocolate will face Rosado next.

[ykdadamaja]

Macklin was a hype job... I wouldn't put any stock in that. If Golovkin had stopped Froch or even Bute (which he probably could have stopped Bute at middle or super middle, at least) then you would have impressed me.

The only thing with this Macklin fight for Golovkin was to compare it to the Martinez fight. If Martinez takes this Golovkin challenge that's brewing, he WILL lose and he will retire shortly afterwards.

A lot of people were shocked that Martinez took the Chavez fight, and did WELL in it too. Well, did well up until the last round- but he surprised me.

But then again, perhaps we had Chavez up too high- higher than he was supposed to have been?

Lucky for Golovkin hes not tryinmg to impress you. Martinez was favorite to beat Chavez and most people, including me, thought he would do so comfortably. If Golovkin fights Martinez he will be a good fav with the bookies too and will most likely stop Martinez but given Martinez' latest performances I dont see how that would be any more impressive then stopping Macklin.

Your opinion of fighters is poor, your predictions of how fights will go are poor and your overall judgment of boxing is poor. You need to learn a lot more about the game before questioning fighters abilities.

GTMF out of here. I have not made a prediction on a fight in God knows when... Macklin is what he is- a hyped of scrub. He was going to be blasted by Golovkin, and we all know it. STFU!!!

I have also said Golovkin is the real deal- made a post about it to. So I don't know WTMF you're on.

Your post is retarded. If he knocked out Froch or Bute that would have impressed you. Moron. He knocked out Bute in amateurs. He is not in the same weight division. So to impress you you have to jump up in weight and KO the top guys in the division.

Dude... don't be a Sam dass... fighters move up in weight all the time. He will most likely move up in weight to do exactly what fighters do- make fights.

And, you are over-stating how I said Golovkin fighting those guys at that weight or a catch weight meant would "impress" me. It was not meant to infer that I would have been impressed to the point that I am not already impressed, which I am. You over-thought the word impressed... which is fine.

I have said, and will continue to say, Golovkin is the real deal and I think he is a great champion. Secondly, Macklin is a hype job. A tin can. Similar to how Gavin Reese went up against a somewhat top guy in Broner and the rest is history... I'm not that impressed with that win against Macklin because he was expected to tear him to pieces.

If you wish me to say this: if he fights, MOVES UP (which you make sound as if it has never happened before, ever) and take on stiffer competition at a higher weight if he can, particularly a top guy, then he would have impressed me MORE THAN how he demolished the tin can in Macklin last night.

It was an easy night of work, much like how Broner had easier nights of work with Reese and Malinaggi.

STFU...