Gennady Golovkin is better than Andre Ward in many ways

[Freedom]

Golovkin is everything Ward is not.

1. GGG fights within the rules, Ward just fouls with illegal headbutts and other dirty stuff

2. GGG is a hard puncher, Ward is feather-fisted.

3. GGG is exciting, Ward is dull to watch with his constant running and holding.

4. GGG is a warrior who will fight anybody anywhere, Ward is an insecure b1tch who demands home advantage for every fight. GGG wouldn't demand a super-middleweight drain down to 160 to fight him, like Ward demanded 175 boxer Dawson drain down to 168.

[Onetime]

We are in the new Pactard era, I can't wait till someone cracks GGG in the chin and all you hipsters jump off this bandwagon. He fights anyone but Ishida is his 4th best win? Get the fuck out.

[Silkeyjoe]

We are in the new Pactard era, I can't wait till someone cracks GGG in the chin and all you hipsters jump off this bandwagon. He fights anyone but Ishida is his 4th best win? Get the fuck out.

I have a feeling this thread was started just for you

[Onetime]

We are in the new Pactard era, I can't wait till someone cracks GGG in the chin and all you hipsters jump off this bandwagon. He fights anyone but Ishida is his 4th best win? Get the fuck out.

I have a feeling this thread was started just for you

Yeah you pathetic hipster bandwagon jumper.

[Silkeyjoe]

We are in the new Pactard era, I can't wait till someone cracks GGG in the chin and all you hipsters jump off this bandwagon. He fights anyone but Ishida is his 4th best win? Get the fuck out.

I have a feeling this thread was started just for you

Yeah you pathetic hipster bandwagon jumper.

Yea but i still prefer being that to what you are. An ignorant American whos hate for a fighter blinds him to his skills.

[Onetime]

We are in the new Pactard era, I can't wait till someone cracks GGG in the chin and all you hipsters jump off this bandwagon. He fights anyone but Ishida is his 4th best win? Get the fuck out.

I have a feeling this thread was started just for you

Yeah you pathetic hipster bandwagon jumper.

Yea but i still prefer being that to what you are. An ignorant American whos hate for a fighter blinds him to his skills.

I've said numerous times on here he could very well be an ATG because I do see his skill but that he is 31 and his 3rd best win got exposed on espn, Gary Russell Jr is 6 years younger and his resume is fair game but GGG's isn't?

[Silkeyjoe]

We are in the new Pactard era, I can't wait till someone cracks GGG in the chin and all you hipsters jump off this bandwagon. He fights anyone but Ishida is his 4th best win? Get the fuck out.

I have a feeling this thread was started just for you

Yeah you pathetic hipster bandwagon jumper.

Yea but i still prefer being that to what you are. An ignorant American whos hate for a fighter blinds him to his skills.

I've said numerous times on here he could very well be an ATG because I do see his skill but that he is 31 and his 3rd best win got exposed on espn, Gary Russell Jr is 6 years younger and his resume is fair game but GGG's isn't?

Yea but then again Russel Jr just turned down a fight to fight his first decent opponent in DPDL.

[Onetime]

We are in the new Pactard era, I can't wait till someone cracks GGG in the chin and all you hipsters jump off this bandwagon. He fights anyone but Ishida is his 4th best win? Get the fuck out.

I have a feeling this thread was started just for you

Yeah you pathetic hipster bandwagon jumper.

Yea but i still prefer being that to what you are. An ignorant American whos hate for a fighter blinds him to his skills.

I've said numerous times on here he could very well be an ATG because I do see his skill but that he is 31 and his 3rd best win got exposed on espn, Gary Russell Jr is 6 years younger and his resume is fair game but GGG's isn't?

Yea but then again Russel Jr just turned down a fight to fight his first decent opponent in DPDL.

I'm hoping he fights Gradovich if not than it's pretty bad but as a GGG fan I'm not sure you are allowed to critique it, wouldn't that be hypocrisy?

[Silkeyjoe]

I'm hoping he fights Gradovich if not than it's pretty bad but as a GGG fan I'm not sure you are allowed to critique it, wouldn't that be hypocrisy?

As far as Im aware Dib is fighting Gradovich on the Pac Rios undercard so it wont be Grado next.

You know when you judge a fighter you can actually watch fights? You dont have to go to boxrec and see who hes fought and how old he is. You can actually watch the fights and judge him by how he performs. Its what most boxing fans do but judging by your comments you arent a real boxing fan.

[Onetime]

I'm hoping he fights Gradovich if not than it's pretty bad but as a GGG fan I'm not sure you are allowed to critique it, wouldn't that be hypocrisy?

As far as Im aware Dib is fighting Gradovich on the Pac Rios undercard so it wont be Grado next.

You know when you judge a fighter you can actually watch fights? You dont have to go to boxrec and see who hes fought and how old he is. You can actually watch the fights and judge him by how he performs. Its what most boxing fans do but judging by your comments you arent a real boxing fan.

I'm pretty sure you aren't a fan just a fanboy, you see a fan boy always has an excuse ready. I can't imagine always making excuses for why my favorite boxers. Make up your mind does a resume matter yes or no?

[Silkeyjoe]

I'm hoping he fights Gradovich if not than it's pretty bad but as a GGG fan I'm not sure you are allowed to critique it, wouldn't that be hypocrisy?

As far as Im aware Dib is fighting Gradovich on the Pac Rios undercard so it wont be Grado next.

You know when you judge a fighter you can actually watch fights? You dont have to go to boxrec and see who hes fought and how old he is. You can actually watch the fights and judge him by how he performs. Its what most boxing fans do but judging by your comments you arent a real boxing fan.

I'm pretty sure you aren't a fan just a fanboy, you see a fan boy always has an excuse ready. I can't imagine always making excuses for why my favorite boxers. Make up your mind does a resume matter yes or no?

Of course it matters but if someone hasnt fought anyone of note and you want to judge how he will do in the future you judge him by his performance. Otherwise everyone is shit because noone fights people of note from early on. Fucking retard.

As i said earlier my job is boxing so I reckon I watch more fights then anyone on this forum and if not its pretty close so yes I am a fan. I love the sport.

I dont talk shit about fighters without watching them fight. You can talk shite all you want how I dont like American fighters, which is complete bullshit because I consider Qullin Cuban, Chavez Mexican. So its just Garcia I have called overrated. Also, if you followed anything other then GGG and Garcia youd see im very quick to criticise "top" British fighters such as Barker and Murray, Scottish fighters like Burns, Irish fighters like Lee, French fighters like Ndam, Australian fighters liek Dib and Tomlinson, and many more from all around the world. I dont give a shit where they are from and just judge by boxing skills.

[Onetime]

I'm hoping he fights Gradovich if not than it's pretty bad but as a GGG fan I'm not sure you are allowed to critique it, wouldn't that be hypocrisy?

As far as Im aware Dib is fighting Gradovich on the Pac Rios undercard so it wont be Grado next.

You know when you judge a fighter you can actually watch fights? You dont have to go to boxrec and see who hes fought and how old he is. You can actually watch the fights and judge him by how he performs. Its what most boxing fans do but judging by your comments you arent a real boxing fan.

I'm pretty sure you aren't a fan just a fanboy, you see a fan boy always has an excuse ready. I can't imagine always making excuses for why my favorite boxers. Make up your mind does a resume matter yes or no?

Of course it matters but if someone hasnt fought anyone of note and you want to judge how he will do in the future you judge him by his performance. Otherwise everyone is shit because noone fights people of note from early on. Fucking retard.

As i said earlier my job is boxing so I reckon I watch more fights then anyone on this forum and if not its pretty close so yes I am a fan. I love the sport.

I dont talk shit about fighters without watching them fight. You can talk shite all you want how I dont like American fighters, which is complete bullshit because I consider Qullin Cuban, Chavez Mexican. So its just Garcia I have called overrated. Also, if you followed anything other then GGG and Garcia youd see im very quick to criticise "top" British fighters such as Barker and Murray, Scottish fighters like Burns, Irish fighters like Lee, French fighters like Ndam, Australian fighters liek Dib and Tomlinson, and many more from all around the world. I dont give a shit where they are from and just judge by boxing skills.

I can't tell you how many fighters I've seen on regional TV who looked like beasts because they were fighting over matched guys do you give them credit?

The stuff you say about GGG is so outrageous that it pretty much makes everything else you say invalid, how foolish will you look if he loses what would you do?

[Silkeyjoe]

I can't tell you how many fighters I've seen on regional TV who looked like beasts because they were fighting over matched guys do you give them credit?

The stuff you say about GGG is so outrageous that it pretty much makes everything else you say invalid, how foolish will you look if he loses what would you do?

Ill just admit I was wrong and move on. You cant be right everytime. Overmatched? Like Quillin v Ndam or Chavez v Lee? Macklin v GGG was a mismatch but man GGG looked good in that fight. Quillin and Chavez didnt. It gets to a point when you ask what isnt over matched for GGG? What would GGG have to do for you to give him credit and say he looks like he could be an all time great?

[Onetime]

I can't tell you how many fighters I've seen on regional TV who looked like beasts because they were fighting over matched guys do you give them credit?

The stuff you say about GGG is so outrageous that it pretty much makes everything else you say invalid, how foolish will you look if he loses what would you do?

Ill just admit I was wrong and move on. You cant be right everytime. Overmatched? Like Quillin v Ndam or Chavez v Lee? Macklin v GGG was a mismatch but man GGG looked good in that fight. Quillin and Chavez didnt. It gets to a point when you ask what isnt over matched for GGG? What would GGG have to do for you to give him credit and say he looks like he could be an all time great?

Point blank you can't count amateurs toward the pros which GGG fans have a habit of doing, I can't consider a fighter an ATG while Ishida is one of his best wins, would you rather have a career where you faced a ton of elite and even some ATG guys or do you want to be undefeated but have to say Ishida is a great win, I think we have very different standards, I'd take Manny's career over GGG even if he goes undefeated but has no ATGs or elite fighters.

[Silkeyjoe]

I can't tell you how many fighters I've seen on regional TV who looked like beasts because they were fighting over matched guys do you give them credit?

The stuff you say about GGG is so outrageous that it pretty much makes everything else you say invalid, how foolish will you look if he loses what would you do?

Ill just admit I was wrong and move on. You cant be right everytime. Overmatched? Like Quillin v Ndam or Chavez v Lee? Macklin v GGG was a mismatch but man GGG looked good in that fight. Quillin and Chavez didnt. It gets to a point when you ask what isnt over matched for GGG? What would GGG have to do for you to give him credit and say he looks like he could be an all time great?

Point blank you can't count amateurs toward the pros which GGG fans have a habit of doing, I can't consider a fighter an ATG while Ishida is one of his best wins, would you rather have a career where you faced a ton of elite and even some ATG guys or do you want to be undefeated but have to say Ishida is a great win, I think we have very different standards, I'd take Manny's career over GGG even if he goes undefeated but has no ATGs or elite fighters.

You should ask Floyd this. I dont know of anyone who has said GGG is an all time great, I certainly havent. Im just saying it looks like he has the potential to become one. Would I consider him an all time great if he clears up the MW division? Probably not because the div is weak, but if he moved down and fought and beat Canelo or Floyd or moves up and beats Ward or Froch, then yes he will be an all time great.

He is 31 now coming into the peak of his career. For me the next 4 years will show how good he is. I think he will be great and I hope I am right because he comes across as a nice guy.