Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
Yeah I don't really understand the eternal love for James Toney. Hopkins would have pissed all over his chips if they'd ever fought IMO.
But James would still eat them, so what are you saying Hopkins would have needed a blind referee, imo. Within the rules of boxing he was not beating a prime James Toney at 160 pounds. Actually try and imagine Bernard winning that without excessive clinching, holding and hitting, using his head, etc.