Duran : In My Era, Mayweather Would Have Been Ordinary

[imp]

It never stops.

So why not tell us who fits this imaginary criteria then?

Violent demise seems to think margarito fits this bill so who else is not guilty of all the things and "what ifs" floyd has done?

Floyd seems to have just plodded along through the amateurs, and got lucky through the pros to get to this point through careful cherry picking and faced no challenges and cant carry durans jockstrap.

Floyd has flaws. We know this.
And we know you respect his skills. We all do.

But

What boxer is clear of any criticism?

What imaginary criteria? Listen, for the billionth time nobody is saying Floyd isn't great read that, if you take offense to anything I've posted re-read that line again and remind yourself of it.

JMM also a great fighter, however 135 was very tough for him. He did win 2 fights there, but he had a lot of trouble, Baby Bull was giving JMM hell....BABY BULL!!! So of course giving JMM a fight where he had to go up in weight even more when he hadn't settled at 135 yet is just ridiculous. And we're supposed to give Floyd credit for beating THE JMM The real top class, P4P status having JMM....no, that was a ridiculous fight to have. That said they are 2 great fighters and it is always good to see 2 great fighters willing to fight each other

Ricky Hatton was THE MAN at 140, everyone agrees with that. Now I don't complain about the ref like a lot of people do nor the ring size not anything but the weight the fight was signed at. Ricky Hatton had attempted to fight at 147 before fighting Floyd...Luis Collazo worked him over and some people thought he deserved to win that fight! And then Ricky goes back to 140, he's shaky there and after that Floyd says "Hey let's fight at 147"

Again, that being said timing is tough in the world of boxing, everyone (repeat) EVERYONE is hounded by the "what-ifs", "yeah buts", and so on (more so if they want to be considered a great, sorry THERE ARE STANDARDS). But Floyd being as big of a star as he is, he could have landed damn near any fight he wanted. This kind of thing hasn't only happened 1 time or 2 times, it's been a career long thing, but hey more power to Floyd he's an All-Time Great and all he does is win.

No boxer is immune to criticism and if anyone wants a criticism of Wlad or Vitali I'd give them as harsh a criticism as I do Floyd, but you have to understand, the heavyweight division is stagnant, people don't move up and down and there's not a never ending supply of top tier fighters from other divisions jumping in line to challenge the heavyweight champions, typically former heavyweights will unretire to fight for the title again and that's where some "fresh blood" comes in. Happens all the time. Floyd is gifted in being a welterweight because he can fight damn near anyone within about a 2 weight class range.

Heavyweight divison whether stagnant or not is the heavyweight divison.

Eveyone wants to be the heavyweight champion of the world its the limit in any contact sport.

In the lower divisons there is movement to challenge others from other neighbouring weight classes but at the end of the day Talent is Talent regardless of what divison you are in.

Just think if mayweather was a heavyweight, his bank balance would be insane.

[Andre]

Thanks to the mod who banned ('onetime' Match purist whoever it really is) for a week while Ive been asleep. When he comes back in a week, its my turn . Just for being rude.

[El Kabong]

It never stops.

So why not tell us who fits this imaginary criteria then?

Violent demise seems to think margarito fits this bill so who else is not guilty of all the things and "what ifs" floyd has done?

Floyd seems to have just plodded along through the amateurs, and got lucky through the pros to get to this point through careful cherry picking and faced no challenges and cant carry durans jockstrap.

Floyd has flaws. We know this.
And we know you respect his skills. We all do.

But

What boxer is clear of any criticism?

What imaginary criteria? Listen, for the billionth time nobody is saying Floyd isn't great read that, if you take offense to anything I've posted re-read that line again and remind yourself of it.

JMM also a great fighter, however 135 was very tough for him. He did win 2 fights there, but he had a lot of trouble, Baby Bull was giving JMM hell....BABY BULL!!! So of course giving JMM a fight where he had to go up in weight even more when he hadn't settled at 135 yet is just ridiculous. And we're supposed to give Floyd credit for beating THE JMM The real top class, P4P status having JMM....no, that was a ridiculous fight to have. That said they are 2 great fighters and it is always good to see 2 great fighters willing to fight each other

Ricky Hatton was THE MAN at 140, everyone agrees with that. Now I don't complain about the ref like a lot of people do nor the ring size not anything but the weight the fight was signed at. Ricky Hatton had attempted to fight at 147 before fighting Floyd...Luis Collazo worked him over and some people thought he deserved to win that fight! And then Ricky goes back to 140, he's shaky there and after that Floyd says "Hey let's fight at 147"

Again, that being said timing is tough in the world of boxing, everyone (repeat) EVERYONE is hounded by the "what-ifs", "yeah buts", and so on (more so if they want to be considered a great, sorry THERE ARE STANDARDS). But Floyd being as big of a star as he is, he could have landed damn near any fight he wanted. This kind of thing hasn't only happened 1 time or 2 times, it's been a career long thing, but hey more power to Floyd he's an All-Time Great and all he does is win.

No boxer is immune to criticism and if anyone wants a criticism of Wlad or Vitali I'd give them as harsh a criticism as I do Floyd, but you have to understand, the heavyweight division is stagnant, people don't move up and down and there's not a never ending supply of top tier fighters from other divisions jumping in line to challenge the heavyweight champions, typically former heavyweights will unretire to fight for the title again and that's where some "fresh blood" comes in. Happens all the time. Floyd is gifted in being a welterweight because he can fight damn near anyone within about a 2 weight class range.

Heavyweight divison whether stagnant or not is the heavyweight divison.

Eveyone wants to be the heavyweight champion of the world its the limit in any contact sport.

In the lower divisons there is movement to challenge others from other neighbouring weight classes but at the end of the day Talent is Talent regardless of what divison you are in.

Just think if mayweather was a heavyweight, his bank balance would be insane.

They'd expect more KOs from him at heavyweight but I don't disagree with anything you said. He's a great boxer I never denied that.

[bradlee180]

You fellas still at it?!

[beenKOed]

Roberto, you had your time at the top, let Floyd have his. Who gives a damn about your opinion?