Did Marquez take Steroids for the Last Pacquiao Fight?

[15rounder]

It's offensive to even bring this up. Marquez has always been one of the stand up guys in Boxing with one of the cleanest fighting style so why accuse now?

IF anything, he should have juiced up in his biggest test against Floyd.. WHy stay clean for the best fighter in the world while juicing against a fighter who he already beat 3x..

Anybody who juices would not feel the need to drink his own piss. Now that's just over doing it lol.

I saw alot of Marquez' training sessions leading up to the 4th pacquiao fight and he practiced that right hand over and over again on the pads. His right hand made this scary popping sound that ive never heard from him before and that power came from added muscles and the fact that he totally sat down on his punches.

YOu really think steroids make you punch harder? lol Muscles can be added easily and when you are already a good puncher, it's not that difficult to increase your power.

Marquez' punching power comes from technique, timing and punch placement that the one that landed on Pacquiao couldnt have been more picture perfect. What made it even more devastating was the fact that Pacquiao RAN into it and when you run into a punch u dont see, you are going to sleep..

Steroids aint got shit to do with this KO.

This is true...the only thing that had to do with this ko was a lucky punch. He wasn't even looking where he was throwing it.

[Beanflicker]

He wasn't even looking where he was throwing it.

Neither was Manny.

GROUND CONTROL TO MAJOR PACQUIAO, COME IN MAJOR PACQUIAO.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...

[15rounder]

#1, i'm just trying to get under the dudes skin...especially since he's one of those "marquez beat pac 3 times" guys...get the fuck outta town

#2, I do find it funny that after whining, pissing and moaning for a 3rd and 4th fight (which pac didn't have to give him), he's staying extremely silent on a 5th

[Julius Rain]

I'll go with Eric Morales opinion on this.

[ruthless rocco]

Juan Manuel Marquez, Manny Pacquiao drug tests come back negative - Los Angeles Times

[Violent Demise]

#1, i'm just trying to get under the dudes skin...especially since he's one of those "marquez beat pac 3 times" guys...get the fuck outta town

#2, I do find it funny that after whining, pissing and moaning for a 3rd and 4th fight (which pac didn't have to give him), he's staying extremely silent on a 5th

The 4th fight was the only fight where there was no doubt who the winner was. The matter has been concluded. No point in having a 5th fight.

[Jerry Rice]

#1, i'm just trying to get under the dudes skin...especially since he's one of those "marquez beat pac 3 times" guys...get the fuck outta town

#2, I do find it funny that after whining, pissing and moaning for a 3rd and 4th fight (which pac didn't have to give him), he's staying extremely silent on a 5th

The 4th fight was the only fight where there was no doubt who the winner was. The matter has been concluded. No point in having a 5th fight.

Even Marquez admitted that Pac one the first fight.

[Violent Demise]

#1, i'm just trying to get under the dudes skin...especially since he's one of those "marquez beat pac 3 times" guys...get the fuck outta town

#2, I do find it funny that after whining, pissing and moaning for a 3rd and 4th fight (which pac didn't have to give him), he's staying extremely silent on a 5th

The 4th fight was the only fight where there was no doubt who the winner was. The matter has been concluded. No point in having a 5th fight.

Even Marquez admitted that Pac one the first fight.

Regardless it was a close fight in which both fighters can say they won. Only one fighter can say he won in the 4th fight

[justaguy]

#1, i'm just trying to get under the dudes skin...especially since he's one of those "marquez beat pac 3 times" guys...get the fuck outta town

#2, I do find it funny that after whining, pissing and moaning for a 3rd and 4th fight (which pac didn't have to give him), he's staying extremely silent on a 5th

The 4th fight was the only fight where there was no doubt who the winner was. The matter has been concluded. No point in having a 5th fight.

Even Marquez admitted that Pac one the first fight.

It's hard to overcome the knockdowns from the first fight. Pac was an up and coming star... but his attacks were not conventional and he caught people off guard. Marquez was the first guy to somewhat solve that puzzle during his initial run and he got off the canvas after looking like he would be just another victim and put together a pretty darned good rest of the fight. Still, hard to overcome the first round.. and Pac did win that fight... but Marquez won a good portion of that fight, and Pac knew it - everybody knows it. Moral victories are not actual victories, though, so you are correct that the first fight was a Pac fight.

[imp]

It hurts too much to accept that manny got knocked out for the 2nd time.

It could happen to anyone.

Floyd could easily get caught and his 0 is gone forever in the canelo fight.

Great fighters loose and come back even better and it will be interesting to see how pacman performs in his next fight against rios.

Pac could be better than he was even at this stage in his career but only against a certain type of opponent.

I wish pac would start his own promotion company and get 100% of the money he deserves rather than having so many managers and hangers on.

[jahmez]

Lol at the pretzel comment, I eat them all the time :/ Following your logic Marquez could have hired any other elite strength and conditioning coach in the world yet he hired a man who was not famed for that field of expertise but rather for doping. This guy made up to $20000 per athlete per annum specifically for designing PEDs and cycles to beat the authorities - not for his knowledge of explosive lifting and plyos. This is from his own mouth. On top of that the guy uses an assumed identity? Come on bro don't tell me your actually serious? Let me guess he wanted to play where's Wally?... Or maybe Marquez just hired him so that people would think that he didn't have belief in his own boxing ability and then he would... surprise them! I wouldn't know if steroids help because I've never used them and I honestly couldn't really give a fuck if fighters did as long as the usage was allowed and stipulated in the rules of the fight but I gotta call bullshit when I see it.

[FinitoElDinamita]

It's offensive to even bring this up. Marquez has always been one of the stand up guys in Boxing with one of the cleanest fighting style so why accuse now?

IF anything, he should have juiced up in his biggest test against Floyd.. WHy stay clean for the best fighter in the world while juicing against a fighter who he already beat 3x..

Anybody who juices would not feel the need to drink his own piss. Now that's just over doing it lol.

I saw alot of Marquez' training sessions leading up to the 4th pacquiao fight and he practiced that right hand over and over again on the pads. His right hand made this scary popping sound that ive never heard from him before and that power came from added muscles and the fact that he totally sat down on his punches.

YOu really think steroids make you punch harder? lol Muscles can be added easily and when you are already a good puncher, it's not that difficult to increase your power.

Marquez' punching power comes from technique, timing and punch placement that the one that landed on Pacquiao couldnt have been more picture perfect. What made it even more devastating was the fact that Pacquiao RAN into it and when you run into a punch u dont see, you are going to sleep..

Steroids aint got shit to do with this KO.

This is true...the only thing that had to do with this ko was a lucky punch. He wasn't even looking where he was throwing it.

Tarver and Danny Garcia also appeared to have their eyes closed when they scored the greatest knockouts..

It's a split second reaction and you would know exactly what IM talking about if you've boxed before. When a fighter puts everything into a single punch, he's also exposing himself to a counter attack which means he had to throw exactly at his intended target.

On cameria,It only appears as though they closed their eyes but they really didnt. If you could watch those sequences in super slow motion, you'd see that the eyes closed at the point of impact.

They had their eyes locked on the target all the way through.

[AdamGB]

It's offensive to even bring this up. Marquez has always been one of the stand up guys in Boxing with one of the cleanest fighting style so why accuse now?

IF anything, he should have juiced up in his biggest test against Floyd.. WHy stay clean for the best fighter in the world while juicing against a fighter who he already beat 3x..

Anybody who juices would not feel the need to drink his own piss. Now that's just over doing it lol.

I saw alot of Marquez' training sessions leading up to the 4th pacquiao fight and he practiced that right hand over and over again on the pads. His right hand made this scary popping sound that ive never heard from him before and that power came from added muscles and the fact that he totally sat down on his punches.

YOu really think steroids make you punch harder? lol Muscles can be added easily and when you are already a good puncher, it's not that difficult to increase your power.

Marquez' punching power comes from technique, timing and punch placement that the one that landed on Pacquiao couldnt have been more picture perfect. What made it even more devastating was the fact that Pacquiao RAN into it and when you run into a punch u dont see, you are going to sleep..

Steroids aint got shit to do with this KO.

This is true...the only thing that had to do with this ko was a lucky punch. He wasn't even looking where he was throwing it.

Lucky? Marquez had been trying for the counter overhand right all night!... He'd dropped pac with it, hurt him with it and tried for it several other times when Pac was sharp enough to step back just out of harms way. If Pac and Roach had picked up on it then maybe he wouldn't have put himself in it's way AGAIN... maybe it wouldn't have been goodnight Pac.

Marquez didn't want it to go to the judges (he'd get robbed, again)... That's why he was behind in my opinion, his only goal was connecting on pac's chin with that counter right. End of story.