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    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

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    Default Re: Marquez did NOT land a lucky punch.

    Also, Marquez went pro in 1999, meaning he's been a pro for 12-14 years. He's probably thrown a punch like that thousands of times in his career.



    As for who said it was a lucky punch:

    Quote Originally Posted by 15rounder View Post
    Luck Punch by JMM...I don't think he was even looking where he was throwing that punch. After JMM whined and moaned to get a 3rd and 4th fight (which manny didn't have to give him) now he's gone suprisingly silent on a 5th fight after landing a lucky punch. Makes you think.

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    Default Re: Marquez did NOT land a lucky punch.

    I don't think many people said it was a lucky punch, it's pretty clear that Marquez threw it and knew exactly where it was going. It's not like it was a clubbing punch thrown with the hope of hitting the boxer somewhere like Oliver Mcall did to Lennox Lewis for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    How about the first knockdown?..

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    How about the first knockdown?..

    It was a heck of a punch, Pac went down hard, however he was able to wheather the storm and start beating Marquez down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    How about the first knockdown?..

    It was a heck of a punch, Pac went down hard, however he was able to wheather the storm and start beating Marquez down.
    So lets get this straight..

    You have just said the first knockdown was a heck of a punch but the 2nd knockdown was lucky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    How about the first knockdown?..

    It was a heck of a punch, Pac went down hard, however he was able to wheather the storm and start beating Marquez down.
    So lets get this straight..

    You have just said the first knockdown was a heck of a punch but the 2nd knockdown was lucky?

    Are you reading my post man, I said Marquez may have timed him perfectly however to knock Pac out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    How about the first knockdown?..

    It was a heck of a punch, Pac went down hard, however he was able to wheather the storm and start beating Marquez down.
    So lets get this straight..

    You have just said the first knockdown was a heck of a punch but the 2nd knockdown was lucky?

    Are you reading my post man, I said Marquez may have timed him perfectly however to knock Pac out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    I disagree.

    Your making marquez win look bad which is wrong.

    Whether your a die hard pac fan or not accept they have had 3 extremely close fights and this particular time 40 year old lightweight marquez was going to end the show.

    All the advantages were with pac for all 4 fights but the punch you never see IS the perfect punch.

    Get over it.

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    Default Re: Marquez did NOT land a lucky punch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.
    In football when someone throws a hail marry in the end zone and its caught is it luck or not because the pass is thrown to be caught, in basketball when a player shoots from the other end of the court and makes the shot is it luck or not since he intended for it to go in, since you don't like to use the word luck lets replace it with miracle.

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    Default Re: Marquez did NOT land a lucky punch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.
    In football when someone throws a hail marry in the end zone and its caught is it luck or not because the pass is thrown to be caught, in basketball when a player shoots from the other end of the court and makes the shot is it luck or not since he intended for it to go in, since you don't like to use the word luck lets replace it with miracle.
    Are they throwing Hail Mary's all 4 downs? Are they taking half court shots every single possession? No there not. Marquez said before the fight he was gonna go for the knock out. And from the first round you can see he was going for it. Fuck getting robbed. He was gonna knock him out this time. And he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.
    In football when someone throws a hail marry in the end zone and its caught is it luck or not because the pass is thrown to be caught, in basketball when a player shoots from the other end of the court and makes the shot is it luck or not since he intended for it to go in, since you don't like to use the word luck lets replace it with miracle.
    Are they throwing Hail Mary's all 4 downs? Are they taking half court shots every single possession? No there not. Marquez said before the fight he was gonna go for the knock out. And from the first round you can see he was going for it. Fuck getting robbed. He was gonna knock him out this time. And he did.


    Yea there have been many times in Marquez career where he said he was going for the knock out and then knocked the guy out cold.

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    Default Re: Marquez did NOT land a lucky punch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.
    In football when someone throws a hail marry in the end zone and its caught is it luck or not because the pass is thrown to be caught, in basketball when a player shoots from the other end of the court and makes the shot is it luck or not since he intended for it to go in, since you don't like to use the word luck lets replace it with miracle.
    Are they throwing Hail Mary's all 4 downs? Are they taking half court shots every single possession? No there not. Marquez said before the fight he was gonna go for the knock out. And from the first round you can see he was going for it. Fuck getting robbed. He was gonna knock him out this time. And he did.


    Yea there have been many times in Marquez career where he said he was going for the knock out and then knocked the guy out cold.
    Said Juan Diaz would finish the fight on his back. Diaz finished the fight on his back. Said he would be the first to stop Casamayor. He became the first to stop Casamayor. Said Katsidis wouldn't go 12 rounds. Katsidis didn't go 12 rounds. Said he was tired of getting robbed and would knock out Pacquiao. He knocked out Pacquiao. It's not luck. It's greatness.

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    Default Re: Marquez did NOT land a lucky punch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Rice View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

    Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.
    I was one, add in all the variables

    1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


    2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


    3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

    Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.
    There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.
    Absofuckinglutely! You train your whole boxing life to hit someone else, you hit or you miss and this time Marquez finally hit! There is no luck in boxing, hitting your opponent is the whole point. The real skill is trying not to get hit, Marquez landed a shot that he has trained his whole life to do. He trained, he fought, he hit and he won.

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