Marquez did NOT land a lucky punch.

[Jerry Rice]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

[imp]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

How about the first knockdown?..

[Jerry Rice]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

How about the first knockdown?..

It was a heck of a punch, Pac went down hard, however he was able to wheather the storm and start beating Marquez down.

[imp]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

How about the first knockdown?..

It was a heck of a punch, Pac went down hard, however he was able to wheather the storm and start beating Marquez down.

So lets get this straight..

You have just said the first knockdown was a heck of a punch but the 2nd knockdown was lucky?

[Jerry Rice]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

How about the first knockdown?..

It was a heck of a punch, Pac went down hard, however he was able to wheather the storm and start beating Marquez down.

So lets get this straight..

You have just said the first knockdown was a heck of a punch but the 2nd knockdown was lucky?

Are you reading my post man, I said Marquez may have timed him perfectly however to knock Pac out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

[imp]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

How about the first knockdown?..

It was a heck of a punch, Pac went down hard, however he was able to wheather the storm and start beating Marquez down.

So lets get this straight..

You have just said the first knockdown was a heck of a punch but the 2nd knockdown was lucky?

Are you reading my post man, I said Marquez may have timed him perfectly however to knock Pac out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

I disagree.

Your making marquez win look bad which is wrong.

Whether your a die hard pac fan or not accept they have had 3 extremely close fights and this particular time 40 year old lightweight marquez was going to end the show.

All the advantages were with pac for all 4 fights but the punch you never see IS the perfect punch.

Get over it.

[ray corso]

There was some luck involved with THAT punch because Manny was practically "by it"!
Manny doube feinted (huge no no in boxing) then fell in and his right shoulder was almost touching Juans! Juan was late lettng it go but the results showed it was on the money!!!
The move is practiced by every countermover/counterpuncher against an agressive southpaw so its not a lucky circustance!!! However Manny aided Juan by making three mistakes in sequence and paid the price!!!

The punch had a little luck to it!!! Nothing wrong with some luck! Ray.

[Beanflicker]

I never understood the idea behind the "lucky punch". If you try to smash your fist into a guy's chin, and you DO smash your first into a guy's chin, how is that lucky? You accomplished the EXACT goal you were trying to.

A lucky punch would be if Marquez slipped on a wet patch in the canvas, and while flailing his arms, his glove hit Pacquaio and knocked him out. That's luck.

[Violent Demise]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.

[Jerry Rice]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.

In football when someone throws a hail marry in the end zone and its caught is it luck or not because the pass is thrown to be caught, in basketball when a player shoots from the other end of the court and makes the shot is it luck or not since he intended for it to go in, since you don't like to use the word luck lets replace it with miracle.

[Violent Demise]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.

In football when someone throws a hail marry in the end zone and its caught is it luck or not because the pass is thrown to be caught, in basketball when a player shoots from the other end of the court and makes the shot is it luck or not since he intended for it to go in, since you don't like to use the word luck lets replace it with miracle.

Are they throwing Hail Mary's all 4 downs? Are they taking half court shots every single possession? No there not. Marquez said before the fight he was gonna go for the knock out. And from the first round you can see he was going for it. Fuck getting robbed. He was gonna knock him out this time. And he did.

[Jerry Rice]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.

In football when someone throws a hail marry in the end zone and its caught is it luck or not because the pass is thrown to be caught, in basketball when a player shoots from the other end of the court and makes the shot is it luck or not since he intended for it to go in, since you don't like to use the word luck lets replace it with miracle.

Are they throwing Hail Mary's all 4 downs? Are they taking half court shots every single possession? No there not. Marquez said before the fight he was gonna go for the knock out. And from the first round you can see he was going for it. Fuck getting robbed. He was gonna knock him out this time. And he did.

Yea there have been many times in Marquez career where he said he was going for the knock out and then knocked the guy out cold.

[Violent Demise]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.

In football when someone throws a hail marry in the end zone and its caught is it luck or not because the pass is thrown to be caught, in basketball when a player shoots from the other end of the court and makes the shot is it luck or not since he intended for it to go in, since you don't like to use the word luck lets replace it with miracle.

Are they throwing Hail Mary's all 4 downs? Are they taking half court shots every single possession? No there not. Marquez said before the fight he was gonna go for the knock out. And from the first round you can see he was going for it. Fuck getting robbed. He was gonna knock him out this time. And he did.

Yea there have been many times in Marquez career where he said he was going for the knock out and then knocked the guy out cold.

Said Juan Diaz would finish the fight on his back. Diaz finished the fight on his back. Said he would be the first to stop Casamayor. He became the first to stop Casamayor. Said Katsidis wouldn't go 12 rounds. Katsidis didn't go 12 rounds. Said he was tired of getting robbed and would knock out Pacquiao. He knocked out Pacquiao. It's not luck. It's greatness.

[imp]

Jerry, are you the type of person that still thinks elvis is alive?

Why cant you accept this.?

[Jerry Rice]

Well. We knew he was a great counter puncher and trained for this but its good to see footage to back it up..

Come on, all the saddos that said it was a lucky punch speak up now or the mods will name you.

I was one, add in all the variables

1. He looked like he was going to get knocked out at anypoint.


2. When has Marquez ever knocked anyone out cold, he has never been a fighter with great punching power on any level.


3. Pac has fought fighters who have hit harder and he was able to take there punches just fine, it had been a while since he had even been down, this defied the odds.

Maybe Marquez timed him perfectly, but to knock him out cold after looking all but defeated was luck.

There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing. How can it be luck when the whole point in boxing is to hit your opponent? It makes no fucking sense.

In football when someone throws a hail marry in the end zone and its caught is it luck or not because the pass is thrown to be caught, in basketball when a player shoots from the other end of the court and makes the shot is it luck or not since he intended for it to go in, since you don't like to use the word luck lets replace it with miracle.

Are they throwing Hail Mary's all 4 downs? Are they taking half court shots every single possession? No there not. Marquez said before the fight he was gonna go for the knock out. And from the first round you can see he was going for it. Fuck getting robbed. He was gonna knock him out this time. And he did.

Yea there have been many times in Marquez career where he said he was going for the knock out and then knocked the guy out cold.

Said Juan Diaz would finish the fight on his back. Diaz finished the fight on his back. Said he would be the first to stop Casamayor. He became the first to stop Casamayor. Said Katsidis wouldn't go 12 rounds. Katsidis didn't go 12 rounds. Said he was tired of getting robbed and would knock out Pacquiao. He knocked out Pacquiao. It's not luck. It's greatness.

You are getting far off the point, in none of those other fights was he close to being knocked out and he knocked his opponent out cold with one punch, I am sure he was looking for a knockout in all of his fights that did not mean it happened.