Marquez did NOT land a lucky punch.

[Jerry Rice]

Ask professionals how important luck is. Skill is important but so is luck.

Well if you subscribe to that, then EVERY KO punch is a lucky punch. It's either takes luck to knock someone out or it doesn't. We don't get to just pull out the "lucky punch" nonsense when our favorite fighter gets KTFO.

If the idea of a lucky punch is such a ridiculous idea why do you guys fanatically fight that opinion, obviously you pay it attention for a reason.

[Addicted to_boxing]

Ask professionals how important luck is. Skill is important but so is luck.

Well if you subscribe to that, then EVERY KO punch is a lucky punch. It's either takes luck to knock someone out or it doesn't. We don't get to just pull out the "lucky punch" nonsense when our favorite fighter gets KTFO.

If the idea of a lucky punch is such a ridiculous idea why do you guys fanatically fight that opinion, obviously you pay it attention for a reason.

Plain and simple stupidness / ignorance gets on people's nerves .

[Jerry Rice]

Ask professionals how important luck is. Skill is important but so is luck.

Well if you subscribe to that, then EVERY KO punch is a lucky punch. It's either takes luck to knock someone out or it doesn't. We don't get to just pull out the "lucky punch" nonsense when our favorite fighter gets KTFO.

If the idea of a lucky punch is such a ridiculous idea why do you guys fanatically fight that opinion, obviously you pay it attention for a reason.

Plain and simple stupidness / ignorance gets on people's nerves .

An even better reason to ignore it.

[Mr140]

Jerry either you love pacs nuts in your mouth or Marquez fucked your mom. How can a shot he has landed on Pac on many occasions be lucky i mean he put his all into his punches this time. Marquez has pretty much been robbed every fight this time he was going to be aggressive about it and it worked.

[AdamGB]

If something is ridiculous and you dare question it, this proves that it is true.

I know that this is true, because Jerry says it's that way and he is the authority on debating etiquette.

[Addicted to_boxing]

Ask professionals how important luck is. Skill is important but so is luck.

Well if you subscribe to that, then EVERY KO punch is a lucky punch. It's either takes luck to knock someone out or it doesn't. We don't get to just pull out the "lucky punch" nonsense when our favorite fighter gets KTFO.

If the idea of a lucky punch is such a ridiculous idea why do you guys fanatically fight that opinion, obviously you pay it attention for a reason.

Plain and simple stupidness / ignorance gets on people's nerves .

An even better reason to ignore it.

Removing your stupid ass comment is better , ever hear of cause and effect ?

[Beanflicker]

Ask professionals how important luck is. Skill is important but so is luck.

Well if you subscribe to that, then EVERY KO punch is a lucky punch. It's either takes luck to knock someone out or it doesn't. We don't get to just pull out the "lucky punch" nonsense when our favorite fighter gets KTFO.

If the idea of a lucky punch is such a ridiculous idea why do you guys fanatically fight that opinion, obviously you pay it attention for a reason.

Why do we fight something we strongly disagree with? What the fuck kind of question is that?

[Jerry Rice]

Ask professionals how important luck is. Skill is important but so is luck.

Well if you subscribe to that, then EVERY KO punch is a lucky punch. It's either takes luck to knock someone out or it doesn't. We don't get to just pull out the "lucky punch" nonsense when our favorite fighter gets KTFO.

If the idea of a lucky punch is such a ridiculous idea why do you guys fanatically fight that opinion, obviously you pay it attention for a reason.

Why do we fight something we strongly disagree with? What the fuck kind of question is that?

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, when I disagree with someone in a debate they are usually making educated points that I can understand but just don't concur, such as if someone told me that they thought James Tony was better than Bernard Hopkins, that is something I would disagree with but you can make points that would make that argument legit / Now if someone told me that John Ruiz was better than Wlad or Vatali that would be an argument so incredibly stupid I would not even respond.


So if my argument is so ridiculous and does not make since why the fuck do you respond.

[Beanflicker]

So if my argument is so ridiculous and does not make since why the fuck do you respond.

I'm not familiar with your argument. All I saw was you say that JMM's KO punch of Manny was a lucky punch. I didn't see you explain why it was a lucky punch, what made it a lucky punch relative to any other KO punch, what the criteria is for a lucky punch, ect.

I argue it because I don't think it is a rediculous concept, I just want someone to explain the above questions to me.

If I could get some kind of definition of a lucky punch, then I could either agree or disagree with it.

[IamInuit]

Somebody make it stop. Yeah I'm sure he used the term lucky punch.(insert sarcasm icon here) I cant believe how sharply boxing IQ has fallen. But of all other things I have heard over the years in the quite possibly mentally retarded category this notion of a "lucky punch" takes the prize as the dumbest fucking thing I have heard in over 40 years of following the sport.

Claiming that punch was lucky and continuing to should almost be a banable offense. That’s right because it’s that fucking stupid and the people saying it ought to join a yarn forum because they know diddly squat about even the most basic of boxing fundamentals. Again I don't think I have ever read anything so daft.The degree of stupidity needed to perpetuate such an inference tells me that the person suggesting it really has no business being on a serious boxing forum. Its beyond trolling its so fucking stupid.

[cnote111]

It pains me every time I have to see or read anything related to this horrific incident. I am a die hard Pac Fan, but a perfect punch is a perfect punch. Manny opened up and paid the price.

I have only seen Pac get KO'd by JMM one time and it was during the PPV. I have yet to watch replay and I hate even talking about. It hurt my soul...... None the less, it was a perfect punch. I'm not taking anything away from Marquez.

[Master]

It pains me every time I have to see or read anything related to this horrific incident. I am a die hard Pac Fan, but a perfect punch is a perfect punch. Manny opened up and paid the price.

I have only seen Pac get KO'd by JMM one time and it was during the PPV. I have yet to watch replay and I hate even talking about. It hurt my soul...... None the less, it was a perfect punch. I'm not taking anything away from Marquez.

We all get that feeling when our favourite boxer loses. It hurts.