Why was Tito so obsessed with Roy and not with Oscar ????

[ruthless rocco]

Tito beat Oscar so he had less to prove and more to lose.

He wanted Jones because he probably thought he could carry his punch up the weights but Hopkins told him different.

To be fair, he was knocking people out all over the place at MW before the Hopkins fight.

Tito fought one time at MW prior to Hopkins and that was to Joppy.

He went to light middle first.

Not a huge difference, if your power holds at LMW then not too far fetched hat you can hold it at MW.

his power didn't hold against hopkins cause his hands weren't wrapped in the special way his father always wrapped them.

watch the fight tito. lands a few punches early and quickly realizes that he has no power. hopkins quickly realizes that tito has no plan b. easy fight for b-hop.

Yea tell Mayorga that.

i'm sure his handwraps were back to normal(loaded) when he fought mayorga.

he never used LOADED wraps, even Nazeem Richardson went into detail explaining the big differences between what happened in Hopkins/Trinidad pre fight and Margarito/Mosley (minimum) pre fight, Trinidad's hands had more of the gauze wrapped further down the hand so that it was tighter nothing loaded like Margarito who had plaster coated wraps, apples and oranges, the only issue was that Trinidad's style of wraps weren't permitted in NY which is where the fight was but they were fully legal and permitted in Vegas where most of his fights took place

The one fight where Tito wasn't allowed to have his father wrap his hands the way he always did, Tito suddenly had no KO power.

what good is power when you can't land a clean blow on your opponent? so how the hell do you deduce that he had no power? and he still stunned B-Hop though not seriously in the 6th I believe when the ref decides to step in and fix his cup, Trinidad's "lack of power" in that fight if credited to Hopkins outboxing him and using he superb defense nothing else, get your facts straight buddy

yeah hopkins is amazing and tito sucked. fact!

[Mr140]

The thing is Jerry i don't care who Oscar would lose to because Tito clearly lost to Oscar. I mean you would pretty much have no knowledge of boxing to give the fight to Tito much like the judges did. One of the worst decision i have ever seen only other ones being Holyfeild vs Lennox first fight.

[ykdadamaja]

The thing is Jerry i don't care who Oscar would lose to because Tito clearly lost to Oscar. I mean you would pretty much have no knowledge of boxing to give the fight to Tito much like the judges did. One of the worst decision i have ever seen only other ones being Holyfeild vs Lennox first fight.

Aside from those two fights, the only other egregious boxing decision that is equal or tops that was/is the RJJ Gold Medal match at the Seoul Olympics in 1988. That and the Pac-Man/Bradley fight.

(I think the RJJ robbery was the worst robbery of all time...)

[Beanflicker]

It doesn't get worse than RJJ/Park Si Hung.

[Jerry Rice]

The thing is Jerry i don't care who Oscar would lose to because Tito clearly lost to Oscar. I mean you would pretty much have no knowledge of boxing to give the fight to Tito much like the judges did. One of the worst decision i have ever seen only other ones being Holyfeild vs Lennox first fight.

Hey man Oscar didn't even really fight a full match, he did something no boxer has done in history, he possibly got hit with something in the 9th round which made him think that his best chances to win the fight was to run.

[Mr140]

Jerry are telling me you think Tito won that fight thats all i need to know see were we stand. Reason being if you scored that fight for Tito then i don't think much of your knowledge at scoring fights. Do you really think Tito won that fight thats is all i have to know dude.

[Master]

I had Tito nicking the fight, it was obvious ODH won the middle rounds and lost the last few so it all comes down to how you scored the early rounds which were close but Tito won most of those.

[Mr140]

I think the best out come for Tito would be a draw and that would be generous. I just find it funny when rice brings up Bernard and Jones and then ask how Oscar would do but ignores that Tito could not even beat Oscar himself. Also lets not forget were both fighters started fighting at as Tito was a bigger guy in general. I mean Oscar started off at 130 and then went to 160 Tito started at 147 so i don't think it really that fair to compare there jumps up in weight really. I would be interest to see your score cards round by round master i might redo mine again.

[Master]

I think the best out come for Tito would be a draw and that would be generous. I just find it funny when rice brings up Bernard and Jones and then ask how Oscar would do but ignores that Tito could not even beat Oscar himself. Also lets not forget were both fighters started fighting at as Tito was a bigger guy in general. I mean Oscar started off at 130 and then went to 160 Tito started at 147 so i don't think it really that fair to compare there jumps up in weight really. I would be interest to see your score cards round by round master i might redo mine again.

It is a long time since I watched it and it was not a great fight to watch and I generally do not score fights again. The fight I have watched the most are ODH and Tito's fight with Vargas, they were both at their best. Great fights.

I agree ODH was the smaller fighter and did brilliantly going up in weight and taking on Pernell, Ike and Tito as these guys would not fight one another.

[Jerry Rice]

I think the best out come for Tito would be a draw and that would be generous. I just find it funny when rice brings up Bernard and Jones and then ask how Oscar would do but ignores that Tito could not even beat Oscar himself. Also lets not forget were both fighters started fighting at as Tito was a bigger guy in general. I mean Oscar started off at 130 and then went to 160 Tito started at 147 so i don't think it really that fair to compare there jumps up in weight really. I would be interest to see your score cards round by round master i might redo mine again.

Actually Tito started off at 140, I just find it funny how so many fans give Hopkins all the credit in the world for beating Tito and no credit for beating Oscar, its hilarious how one minute De La Hoya fans want to convince me that Tito is naturally bigger than Oscar and the next minute tell me that Tito and Hopkins are the same size, complete oxymoron.

[Jerry Rice]

I think the best out come for Tito would be a draw and that would be generous. I just find it funny when rice brings up Bernard and Jones and then ask how Oscar would do but ignores that Tito could not even beat Oscar himself. Also lets not forget were both fighters started fighting at as Tito was a bigger guy in general. I mean Oscar started off at 130 and then went to 160 Tito started at 147 so i don't think it really that fair to compare there jumps up in weight really. I would be interest to see your score cards round by round master i might redo mine again.

This post is funny, you give me all the resistance in the world and now you're open to someone else's opinion.

[Jerry Rice]

I had Tito nicking the fight, it was obvious ODH won the middle rounds and lost the last few so it all comes down to how you scored the early rounds which were close but Tito won most of those.

Couldn't have put it better myself.