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    Default Re: Why was Tito so obsessed with Roy and not with Oscar ????

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    Tito beat Oscar so he had less to prove and more to lose.

    He wanted Jones because he probably thought he could carry his punch up the weights but Hopkins told him different.
    To be fair, he was knocking people out all over the place at MW before the Hopkins fight.

    Tito fought one time at MW prior to Hopkins and that was to Joppy.
    He went to light middle first.

    Not a huge difference, if your power holds at LMW then not too far fetched hat you can hold it at MW.
    his power didn't hold against hopkins cause his hands weren't wrapped in the special way his father always wrapped them.

    watch the fight tito. lands a few punches early and quickly realizes that he has no power. hopkins quickly realizes that tito has no plan b. easy fight for b-hop.


    Yea tell Mayorga that.
    i'm sure his handwraps were back to normal(loaded) when he fought mayorga.
    he never used LOADED wraps, even Nazeem Richardson went into detail explaining the big differences between what happened in Hopkins/Trinidad pre fight and Margarito/Mosley (minimum) pre fight, Trinidad's hands had more of the gauze wrapped further down the hand so that it was tighter nothing loaded like Margarito who had plaster coated wraps, apples and oranges, the only issue was that Trinidad's style of wraps weren't permitted in NY which is where the fight was but they were fully legal and permitted in Vegas where most of his fights took place

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    Default Re: Why was Tito so obsessed with Roy and not with Oscar ????

    I think Trinidad just wanted to fight the guy who was seen for years as the best pound-for-pound fighter in boxing.
    They used to have Roy Jones and De La Hoya constantly switching places between p4p#1 and p4p#2.
    I didn't understand the debate at all, clearly Roy Jones was a far more talented superior fighter.
    De La Hoya was damn good of course and a multiple Chap across many weight classes, but a prime Roy Jones was simply phenomenal.
    That rematch with Montell Griffin showcased Roy at his best.

    I think Trinidad wanted to get in the ring with him...

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    Tito beat Oscar so he had less to prove and more to lose.

    He wanted Jones because he probably thought he could carry his punch up the weights but Hopkins told him different.
    To be fair, he was knocking people out all over the place at MW before the Hopkins fight.

    Tito fought one time at MW prior to Hopkins and that was to Joppy.
    He went to light middle first.

    Not a huge difference, if your power holds at LMW then not too far fetched hat you can hold it at MW.
    his power didn't hold against hopkins cause his hands weren't wrapped in the special way his father always wrapped them.

    watch the fight tito. lands a few punches early and quickly realizes that he has no power. hopkins quickly realizes that tito has no plan b. easy fight for b-hop.


    Yea tell Mayorga that.
    i'm sure his handwraps were back to normal(loaded) when he fought mayorga.
    he never used LOADED wraps, even Nazeem Richardson went into detail explaining the big differences between what happened in Hopkins/Trinidad pre fight and Margarito/Mosley (minimum) pre fight, Trinidad's hands had more of the gauze wrapped further down the hand so that it was tighter nothing loaded like Margarito who had plaster coated wraps, apples and oranges, the only issue was that Trinidad's style of wraps weren't permitted in NY which is where the fight was but they were fully legal and permitted in Vegas where most of his fights took place
    The one fight where Tito wasn't allowed to have his father wrap his hands the way he always did, Tito suddenly had no KO power.

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    Tito beat Oscar so he had less to prove and more to lose.

    He wanted Jones because he probably thought he could carry his punch up the weights but Hopkins told him different.
    To be fair, he was knocking people out all over the place at MW before the Hopkins fight.

    Tito fought one time at MW prior to Hopkins and that was to Joppy.
    He went to light middle first.

    Not a huge difference, if your power holds at LMW then not too far fetched hat you can hold it at MW.
    his power didn't hold against hopkins cause his hands weren't wrapped in the special way his father always wrapped them.

    watch the fight tito. lands a few punches early and quickly realizes that he has no power. hopkins quickly realizes that tito has no plan b. easy fight for b-hop.


    Yea tell Mayorga that.
    i'm sure his handwraps were back to normal(loaded) when he fought mayorga.
    he never used LOADED wraps, even Nazeem Richardson went into detail explaining the big differences between what happened in Hopkins/Trinidad pre fight and Margarito/Mosley (minimum) pre fight, Trinidad's hands had more of the gauze wrapped further down the hand so that it was tighter nothing loaded like Margarito who had plaster coated wraps, apples and oranges, the only issue was that Trinidad's style of wraps weren't permitted in NY which is where the fight was but they were fully legal and permitted in Vegas where most of his fights took place
    The one fight where Tito wasn't allowed to have his father wrap his hands the way he always did, Tito suddenly had no KO power.
    what good is power when you can't land a clean blow on your opponent? so how the hell do you deduce that he had no power? and he still stunned B-Hop though not seriously in the 6th I believe when the ref decides to step in and fix his cup, Trinidad's "lack of power" in that fight if credited to Hopkins outboxing him and using he superb defense nothing else, get your facts straight buddy

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    Tito beat Oscar so he had less to prove and more to lose.

    He wanted Jones because he probably thought he could carry his punch up the weights but Hopkins told him different.
    To be fair, he was knocking people out all over the place at MW before the Hopkins fight.

    Tito fought one time at MW prior to Hopkins and that was to Joppy.
    He went to light middle first.

    Not a huge difference, if your power holds at LMW then not too far fetched hat you can hold it at MW.
    his power didn't hold against hopkins cause his hands weren't wrapped in the special way his father always wrapped them.

    watch the fight tito. lands a few punches early and quickly realizes that he has no power. hopkins quickly realizes that tito has no plan b. easy fight for b-hop.


    Yea tell Mayorga that.
    i'm sure his handwraps were back to normal(loaded) when he fought mayorga.
    he never used LOADED wraps, even Nazeem Richardson went into detail explaining the big differences between what happened in Hopkins/Trinidad pre fight and Margarito/Mosley (minimum) pre fight, Trinidad's hands had more of the gauze wrapped further down the hand so that it was tighter nothing loaded like Margarito who had plaster coated wraps, apples and oranges, the only issue was that Trinidad's style of wraps weren't permitted in NY which is where the fight was but they were fully legal and permitted in Vegas where most of his fights took place
    The one fight where Tito wasn't allowed to have his father wrap his hands the way he always did, Tito suddenly had no KO power.
    what good is power when you can't land a clean blow on your opponent? so how the hell do you deduce that he had no power? and he still stunned B-Hop though not seriously in the 6th I believe when the ref decides to step in and fix his cup, Trinidad's "lack of power" in that fight if credited to Hopkins outboxing him and using he superb defense nothing else, get your facts straight buddy
    yeah hopkins is amazing and tito sucked. fact!

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    Default Re: Why was Tito so obsessed with Roy and not with Oscar ????

    The thing is Jerry i don't care who Oscar would lose to because Tito clearly lost to Oscar. I mean you would pretty much have no knowledge of boxing to give the fight to Tito much like the judges did. One of the worst decision i have ever seen only other ones being Holyfeild vs Lennox first fight.

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    The thing is Jerry i don't care who Oscar would lose to because Tito clearly lost to Oscar. I mean you would pretty much have no knowledge of boxing to give the fight to Tito much like the judges did. One of the worst decision i have ever seen only other ones being Holyfeild vs Lennox first fight.
    Aside from those two fights, the only other egregious boxing decision that is equal or tops that was/is the RJJ Gold Medal match at the Seoul Olympics in 1988. That and the Pac-Man/Bradley fight.

    (I think the RJJ robbery was the worst robbery of all time...)
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    It doesn't get worse than RJJ/Park Si Hung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    The thing is Jerry i don't care who Oscar would lose to because Tito clearly lost to Oscar. I mean you would pretty much have no knowledge of boxing to give the fight to Tito much like the judges did. One of the worst decision i have ever seen only other ones being Holyfeild vs Lennox first fight.
    Hey man Oscar didn't even really fight a full match, he did something no boxer has done in history, he possibly got hit with something in the 9th round which made him think that his best chances to win the fight was to run.

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    Default Re: Why was Tito so obsessed with Roy and not with Oscar ????

    Jerry are telling me you think Tito won that fight thats all i need to know see were we stand. Reason being if you scored that fight for Tito then i don't think much of your knowledge at scoring fights. Do you really think Tito won that fight thats is all i have to know dude.

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