James Degale- Not aggressive enough!

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He needs to sort out his promoter shit and then try and get some momentum. 17 fights in four and half years. Headlining Kent shopping centres.

I think Groves has improved way past him. If they fought now I'd bet on Groves to KO him.

its a marketing illusion

Just like the illusion that is your boxing knowledge.

ha jesus

is that the end of our debate then?

Sorry mate, let me clear this up.

I am a fairly open minded guy, I take people's opinions and points and if they're right and I am wrong, then I take it on the chin and I am happy that I've learned something in the argument.

Or if the person is wrong and disagrees with me but still accepts my points to an extent while sticking by their own, I respect that even if I disagree with them.

But then there are people so blatantly wrong and unwilling to listen to anything but the voices of the unjustly large egos they've created inside their unfathomably small heads. These people get swiftly dropped from the appointments they had with my patience.

You fit somewhere between scenario 2-3.



I will add that this is not intended as an insult, it's just honesty.

honestly pal, I would say that currently you are closer to number 3

I am willing to hear your point and perhaps consider you dropping somewhere nearer to number 2, but so far you have said nothing to back anything up you have said

all you have said is groves has fought better fighters than degale, I don't agree, I believe their opposition has been very similar and if anything degales has been slightly tougher

I think the only reason groves is above degale in the rankings is because of their fight (which is understandable)

It's not just for the fact that he's knocking people out, it's the experience he gained from fighting a Glen Johnson, or the excellent knockout of one of the top British fighters of the division in Paul Smith.

Or again maybe the knockout of a heavy puncher in Sierra?

I don't see how the guys DeGale fought are better when HALF of the guys he fought since Groves were coming off of losses mate, come on.

You just have to look. You wanna fight for a world title but your fighting unknown fighters coming off of losses?

Only 1 of Groves opponents since Degale came in off a loss and that was Johnson, the rest all came into fight groves after a win and he KOd them all.