Tyson VS Holyfield in 91

[bradlee180]

I think Holyfeild had Tyson number and he actual won a lot of his big fights and was not crushing cans a lot of his career. I laugh when people say Tyson was not prime because neither was Holyfiled. I mean if i had to call the last prime version i say it was Bowie rematch he won after that Holyfeild had some really bad problems health wise after. Holyfeild was just more solid on his fundamentals then Tyson was so he pretty much outclassed him even though he was older and in worst way when it came to his health.

I don't think Holyfield had better fundamentals than Tyson.
Holyfield was more versatile. For example Tyson couldn't fight going backwards, Holy could.
Holyfield had many Great attributes, bur he had some shortcomings:
I think Holyfield fought off-balance a lot.
He didn't move his head enough; that's why he got hit so cleanly by so many fighters; he'd just stand there. His world-class chin, one of the best in Boxing, is what kept him in there many times.
He didn't have Heavyweight power, and part of that was all that nonsensical bouncing around excuse-for-footwork he'd do. When you bounce like that, your feet aren't planted, and you lose power.
He also hardly ever gets called for all the rule-breaking he did with his chronic head-butting and elbows.
Tyson, likewise had many Great attributes and some shortcomings, but he had excellent fundamentals for the style he utilized as a 5'11" guy consistently fighting 6'4" guys.

[Master]

I think Holyfeild had Tyson number and he actual won a lot of his big fights and was not crushing cans a lot of his career. I laugh when people say Tyson was not prime because neither was Holyfiled. I mean if i had to call the last prime version i say it was Bowie rematch he won after that Holyfeild had some really bad problems health wise after. Holyfeild was just more solid on his fundamentals then Tyson was so he pretty much outclassed him even though he was older and in worst way when it came to his health.

I don't think Holyfield had better fundamentals than Tyson.
Holyfield was more versatile. For example Tyson couldn't fight going backwards, Holy could.
Holyfield had many Great attributes, bur he had some shortcomings:
I think Holyfield fought off-balance a lot.
He didn't move his head enough; that's why he got hit so cleanly by so many fighters; he'd just stand there. His world-class chin, one of the best in Boxing, is what kept him in there many times.
He didn't have Heavyweight power, and part of that was all that nonsensical bouncing around excuse-for-footwork he'd do. When you bounce like that, your feet aren't planted, and you lose power.
He also hardly ever gets called for all the rule-breaking he did with his chronic head-butting and elbows.
Tyson, likewise had many Great attributes and some shortcomings, but he had excellent fundamentals for the style he utilized as a 5'11" guy consistently fighting 6'4" guys.

Tyson could be pushed back but he came at you from the sides and obliterated you.

[bradlee180]

Yep, that's the liability of squaring up: you can be pushed back, neutralizing your punching power because you don't have time to punch before getting pushed back.
The advantage is more torque and power on your hooks and uppercuts when you get inside...
Holyfeild was very masterful in how he took advantage of that.

It's not how Buster defeated Tyson at all.

I always think of Buster getting off first with long-range right-hand leads...
Very dangerous to throw right-hand leads, but it worked for Buster on Tyson, and it worked for Ali on Foreman...

[GAME]

Mike would be dangerous in the exchanges but unless he landed something big early I think it would go the same way it did in 96.

Holyfield had Tysons number and once he had absorbed his initial assault he would start roughing him up and wearing him down.

Holyfield in 91 was a machine and could go non stop for 12 rounds, Mike would only be a threat to him for 5 or 6 rounds

[Master]

Mike would be dangerous in the exchanges but unless he landed something big early I think it would go the same way it did in 96.

Holyfield had Tysons number and once he had absorbed his initial assault he would start roughing him up and wearing him down.

Holyfield in 91 was a machine and could go non stop for 12 rounds, Mike would only be a threat to him for 5 or 6 rounds

Holyfield was a skinny heavyweight then, Tyson would have butchered his body. Later he put on the muscle to absorb the heavyweight shots.

[GAME]

Mike would be dangerous in the exchanges but unless he landed something big early I think it would go the same way it did in 96.

Holyfield had Tysons number and once he had absorbed his initial assault he would start roughing him up and wearing him down.

Holyfield in 91 was a machine and could go non stop for 12 rounds, Mike would only be a threat to him for 5 or 6 rounds

Holyfield was a skinny heavyweight then, Tyson would have butchered his body. Later he put on the muscle to absorb the heavyweight shots.

That's true Holyfield may not have the neck the absorb the uppercuts back then but he is such a warrior that he'd most likely be able to battle back and get off the floor if he had to and take Tyson into deep water

If I had to put money on it I'd go with Holyfield cuz if you put money on Tyson you'd be banking on him winning early and Evander's never been put away early

[Master]

Mike would be dangerous in the exchanges but unless he landed something big early I think it would go the same way it did in 96.

Holyfield had Tysons number and once he had absorbed his initial assault he would start roughing him up and wearing him down.

Holyfield in 91 was a machine and could go non stop for 12 rounds, Mike would only be a threat to him for 5 or 6 rounds

Holyfield was a skinny heavyweight then, Tyson would have butchered his body. Later he put on the muscle to absorb the heavyweight shots.

That's true Holyfield may not have the neck the absorb the uppercuts back then but he is such a warrior that he'd most likely be able to battle back and get off the floor if he had to and take Tyson into deep water

If I had to put money on it I'd go with Holyfield cuz if you put money on Tyson you'd be banking on him winning early and Evander's never been put away early

Whilst Tyson may not have stopped Holyfield early I could see Tyson stop him later in the fight a bit like Toney did with brutal body shots.