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    Default What difference will weight make in the Floyd - Alvarez fight

    Sorry this might be a bit of a crap question for you guys but Im not too sure of the finer details of the divisons below heavyweight. In the build up to the Mayweather Alvarez fight I've been reading lots about Alvarez's weight and how during fight night he'll be something like 170 lbs because of hydraytion and with 30 days to go he was still something like 14 lbs over the weight limit. Obviously Mayweather is around 150 lbs, but does weight really make much of a difference to the fight?
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    Default Re: What difference will weight make in the Floyd - Alvarez fight

    None. Floyd might be a pound or so heavier then he is on fight night at 147 and Alvarez wont be effected at all by having to drop a couple of pounds. It is however a convenient excuse. The guy has been as low as 149, 150 151 and just over 153 for Trout. It really is much to do about nothing. Ortiz was 168 I think with Floyd for their welter fight. Floyd been outweighed on fight night pretty much his entire career.
    Marquez probably out weighed him.

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    Default Re: What difference will weight make in the Floyd - Alvarez fight

    Are you talking about the extra 2lbs Canelo has to cut? That'll be no problem for a young guy like Canelo physically. It's more of an attempt at a mental edge for Mayweather, by making Canelo have to change up his usual routine to compensate for the extra 2lbs he has to lose.

    If you're talking about the weight advantage Canelo is going to have over Floyd... we'll have to wait and see. Like Inuit mentioned, Floyd has been fighting and dominating bigger guys his whole career.

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    I think it could be the difference. I'm expecting Alvarez to look big on the night.

    Although I think he will just be too predictable and his style is too pure.

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    Default Re: What difference will weight make in the Floyd - Alvarez fight

    Cutting weight is hell for any fighter and cutting even a bit more than you are used to can be very significant. He will be eating 4 pieces of lettuce, 2 slices of tomato, and a crumb of bread as his daily meal for a week before the fight. There is a reason he fights in spurts and it is because he is a drained fighter, he's knackered and cannot do more. This fight will only make it worse and he is fighting the best fighter in the world. He was stupid to agree to the weight.

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    Default Re: What difference will weight make in the Floyd - Alvarez fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Cutting weight is hell for any fighter and cutting even a bit more than you are used to can be very significant. He will be eating 4 pieces of lettuce, 2 slices of tomato, and a crumb of bread as his daily meal for a week before the fight. There is a reason he fights in spurts and it is because he is a drained fighter, he's knackered and cannot do more. This fight will only make it worse and he is fighting the best fighter in the world. He was stupid to agree to the weight.
    No offense but people need to stop this. They need to stop this cause its a crock of shit. He weighed in at 153 for Trout and has been 150. 151 etc in previous fights. The difference here is a bigger then normal bowel movement the morning of the weigh in.

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    Default Re: What difference will weight make in the Floyd - Alvarez fight

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Cutting weight is hell for any fighter and cutting even a bit more than you are used to can be very significant. He will be eating 4 pieces of lettuce, 2 slices of tomato, and a crumb of bread as his daily meal for a week before the fight. There is a reason he fights in spurts and it is because he is a drained fighter, he's knackered and cannot do more. This fight will only make it worse and he is fighting the best fighter in the world. He was stupid to agree to the weight.
    No offense but people need to stop this. They need to stop this cause its a crock of shit. He weighed in at 153 for Trout and has been 150. 151 etc in previous fights. The difference here is a bigger then normal bowel movement the morning of the weigh in.
    So Saul just has to take a big dump to make weight, replenish himself and take an even bigger dump before the fight.
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    Default Re: What difference will weight make in the Floyd - Alvarez fight

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    Boxing News | “Canelo” Alvarez down to 157.4; must lose 5.2 lbs in the next seven days

    i read he lost 9 pounds over the previous 23 days. he now has 7 days to lose 5 pounds.
    Last edited by ruthless rocco; 09-07-2013 at 05:00 AM.

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    Default Re: What difference will weight make in the Floyd - Alvarez fight

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Cutting weight is hell for any fighter and cutting even a bit more than you are used to can be very significant. He will be eating 4 pieces of lettuce, 2 slices of tomato, and a crumb of bread as his daily meal for a week before the fight. There is a reason he fights in spurts and it is because he is a drained fighter, he's knackered and cannot do more. This fight will only make it worse and he is fighting the best fighter in the world. He was stupid to agree to the weight.
    No offense but people need to stop this. They need to stop this cause its a crock of shit. He weighed in at 153 for Trout and has been 150. 151 etc in previous fights. The difference here is a bigger then normal bowel movement the morning of the weigh in.
    You are a smart fellow and I am sure in the boxing books you have read, you have found fighters that have to cut weight take quite extreme approaches to doing so. The CW wasn't put in for a laugh. It is induced to make Canelo weak and make Floyd look better against a bigger guy than he should. It is smoke and mirrors on the part of Floyd.

    Canelo will be drained, just like usual, only moreso. Floyd has made no sacrifices. He has fought at 154 and could have done so properly. If it has no bearing, then ask Floyd why he demanded it.

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    Default Re: What difference will weight make in the Floyd - Alvarez fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Cutting weight is hell for any fighter and cutting even a bit more than you are used to can be very significant. He will be eating 4 pieces of lettuce, 2 slices of tomato, and a crumb of bread as his daily meal for a week before the fight. There is a reason he fights in spurts and it is because he is a drained fighter, he's knackered and cannot do more. This fight will only make it worse and he is fighting the best fighter in the world. He was stupid to agree to the weight.
    No offense but people need to stop this. They need to stop this cause its a crock of shit. He weighed in at 153 for Trout and has been 150. 151 etc in previous fights. The difference here is a bigger then normal bowel movement the morning of the weigh in.
    You are a smart fellow and I am sure in the boxing books you have read, you have found fighters that have to cut weight take quite extreme approaches to doing so. The CW wasn't put in for a laugh. It is induced to make Canelo weak and make Floyd look better against a bigger guy than he should. It is smoke and mirrors on the part of Floyd.

    Canelo will be drained, just like usual, only moreso. Floyd has made no sacrifices. He has fought at 154 and could have done so properly. If it has no bearing, then ask Floyd why he demanded it.
    There is no evidence in history to suggest that a guy that weighs near light heavyweight at fight night that fights at 154 has an issue with losing 2 pounds and the facts in this specific case scream out and yet are ignored. The guy has weighed in numerous times near the same weight and as low as 150.

    If he loses a close one people that hate Floyd will say the two pounds might have made the difference.

    If he loses a lopsided one then the two pounds will take on epic proportion.

    But if he sneaks it out or manages to knock Floyd out, that two pounds will have had no significance whatsoever.

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    Default Re: What difference will weight make in the Floyd - Alvarez fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24 View Post
    Sorry this might be a bit of a crap question for you guys but Im not too sure of the finer details of the divisons below heavyweight. In the build up to the Mayweather Alvarez fight I've been reading lots about Alvarez's weight and how during fight night he'll be something like 170 lbs because of hydraytion and with 30 days to go he was still something like 14 lbs over the weight limit. Obviously Mayweather is around 150 lbs, but does weight really make much of a difference to the fight?


    It's not a crap question at all, in fact it's a very good question. You've already seen all the responses to the question. Now consider this one: Alvarez in more ways than one resembles his countryman, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Going hell bent on losing weight to make a weight that does not suit his body. Then rehydrating an ungodly amount to where he'll weigh 20-30 pounds more than his opponent at fight time. It's an unfair advantage... and you've got to be blind or clueless to think otherwise. Difference is: JCC Jr. has already been caught doing it with banned substances (diuretics). Alvarez hasn't been accused of that yet. Forget the norm of fighting at your natural weight... only losing the weight gained naturally between fights. Alvarez and JCC Jr. force themselves several weight divisions downward, in order to exploit the size advantage they'll have in the ring. It's bogus... but it's legal.

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    Default Re: What difference will weight make in the Floyd - Alvarez fight

    Cutting weight is like anything else some fighters are able to do it better then others. It has been in this sport for some time and some people have mastered it pretty well. If you can make the weight and still fight then all is fair in the ring i would say i am looking forward to the fight.

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