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    Default Re: I can't wait for Oscar De la Hoya to eat his words!!!!

    Oscar came quite close didn't he tho

    I remember that fight and thinking how small Floyd looked, hes grown since hasn't he?

    I also thought trout was unlucky against canelo

    and I think Matthew Hatton has a very good chin, you never know it might even be better than floyds
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    Default Re: I can't wait for Oscar De la Hoya to eat his words!!!!

    JLC came close (and arguably should have got the decision). Oscar didn't do anything.

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    Default Re: I can't wait for Oscar De la Hoya to eat his words!!!!

    Oscar is the promoter. I'm pretty sure he'd say anything if it means making more money.

    Regardless of whether or not the Oscar-Floyd fight was actually close, the fact is Floyd won a close split decision, so there is a chance Canelo can win the fight even if he doesn't win.

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    Default Re: I can't wait for Oscar De la Hoya to eat his words!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    JLC came close (and arguably should have got the decision). Oscar didn't do anything.
    Oscar spouts as much BS as anyone in boxing, including Arum. Oscar is just trying to sell a fight that most people don't believe will be too competitive and will end the same way all of Floyd's fights end, Floyd by decision. The only way I see the fight going differently is if Canelo is stopped on cuts or is too winded the second half of the fight.

    With regard to his fight against Floyd, Oscar did something, but he didn't win the fight, and he didn't lay a blueprint to beat Floyd. If his blueprint is just "jab," he's going to be eating a big piece of humble pie come September 14, 2013.

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    Default Re: I can't wait for Oscar De la Hoya to eat his words!!!!

    does everyone really think that alverez has no chance?

    yes the most likely scenario is Floyd by UD but I reckon this is as tough a test as hes had for a while
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    Default Re: I can't wait for Oscar De la Hoya to eat his words!!!!

    To counter argue a little. I remember there was a bit of a debate on here after the fight on just how accurate, or inaccurate Floyd's own punching was.

    Firstly - if I remember correctly, Floyd's accuracy (in terms of raw percentage, black and white numbers) was a little off, lower than usual.

    A few or more of us here argued that Floyd was hitting gloves a fair bit, I think particularly early-on, owing to Oscars guard/ defence. He didn't move his head much (which Floyd has actually gone on record to say he was in disbelief of during the fight) but his hands were solid.

    This lead me to believe that Winky would definitely beat him if they ever fought but then he quickly fell off so that idea was a long lost archive. However, I did think at the time that there was a bit of a blue print there.)

    But I'd be interested to know if Floyd's accuracy in that fight has remained the lowest it has been since his fight with Dela Hoya. It would be interesting because Canelo likes to do a bit of hands-high-walk-you-down.
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    Default Re: I can't wait for Oscar De la Hoya to eat his words!!!!

    Oscar is the phoniest twit I've ever heard, everything he says is dogshit and cringeworthy. Having said that, he did put up a good effort against Floyd and was in the fight until about the halfway point. I think a lot of that had to do with him having an equalizer in his left hook, Floyd was probably wary of forcing openings while Oscar was still fresh. Once he had timed the jab Floyd landed with a lot more authority, and all of Oscars offence boiled down to little flurries in close since he couldn't dictate range anymore, half the time he would finally get inside just to hold and flurry with one arm tiring himself out.

    If there is any blueprint there, it's one for Floyd to use. I'm not sure Alvarez is as good as DLH still was at that point, and he doesn't have the big punch or experience to keep Floyd honest.

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    Default Re: I can't wait for Oscar De la Hoya to eat his words!!!!

    Oscars just hyping the fight. If he believed what he said, he could have rematched floyd. (not like people wouldn't pay for it) Its easy to talk smack from behind a desk when someones doing the fighting for you. Oscar just has to eat crow; Canelo is the one that has to eat the leather.

    Even if Floyd blanks Canelo and shuts him out. Oscar still stands to make money. Canelo will still sell in Mexico and maybe the U.S. because he will have lost to the top guy in boxing. Golden boy would still co promote with Mayweather and get a piece of change off every one of his fights. He's doing the smart thing by hyping the fight because no matter who wins and loses, his bottom line doesn't change much.
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    No doubt, would just be nice if was a good talker in some fashion. Any idea what kind of deal/options Golden Boy have with Mayweather anyways? I've wondered this, what's in it for both to say they "co promote" everything, obviously Floyd doesn't have the same kind of pull there.

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    Default Re: I can't wait for Oscar De la Hoya to eat his words!!!!

    Maybe the 'blueprint' was that Floyd gave Oscar the jab to get him to come to Floyd and throw other punches that are easier to counter off of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    To counter argue a little. I remember there was a bit of a debate on here after the fight on just how accurate, or inaccurate Floyd's own punching was.

    Firstly - if I remember correctly, Floyd's accuracy (in terms of raw percentage, black and white numbers) was a little off, lower than usual.

    A few or more of us here argued that Floyd was hitting gloves a fair bit, I think particularly early-on, owing to Oscars guard/ defence. He didn't move his head much (which Floyd has actually gone on record to say he was in disbelief of during the fight) but his hands were solid.

    This lead me to believe that Winky would definitely beat him if they ever fought but then he quickly fell off so that idea was a long lost archive. However, I did think at the time that there was a bit of a blue print there.)

    But I'd be interested to know if Floyd's accuracy in that fight has remained the lowest it has been since his fight with Dela Hoya. It would be interesting because Canelo likes to do a bit of hands-high-walk-you-down.
    I remember watching the fight and seeing Floyd jab alot to Oscar's left side of the face early on. Might have had an impact on Oscar not wanting to move his head inside the jab and land his money punch.

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    Default Re: I can't wait for Oscar De la Hoya to eat his words!!!!

    I watched the full fight again today how any1 can even say the fight was close is just crazy. I gave Oscar rounds 2,6,7 and 1 more round was close but I gave it to floyd. Oscar was only fighting in 1 or 2 flurys a round he just wasn't punching enough and most of his shots were missing. Floyd landed 207 shots at 43% Oscar was122 and 21% power punches floyd had138 at 57% to oscars 82 at 24% and that Judge who scored it 115 to 113 for Oscar should never be aloud to judge a fight again it was that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g3org3 View Post
    I watched the full fight again today how any1 can even say the fight was close is just crazy. I gave Oscar rounds 2,6,7 and 1 more round was close but I gave it to floyd. Oscar was only fighting in 1 or 2 flurys a round he just wasn't punching enough and most of his shots were missing. Floyd landed 207 shots at 43% Oscar was122 and 21% power punches floyd had138 at 57% to oscars 82 at 24% and that Judge who scored it 115 to 113 for Oscar should never be aloud to judge a fight again it was that bad.
    It was a close fight you must really hate Oscar or you don't have a clue about boxing, not sure what one it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by g3org3 View Post
    I watched the full fight again today how any1 can even say the fight was close is just crazy. I gave Oscar rounds 2,6,7 and 1 more round was close but I gave it to floyd. Oscar was only fighting in 1 or 2 flurys a round he just wasn't punching enough and most of his shots were missing. Floyd landed 207 shots at 43% Oscar was122 and 21% power punches floyd had138 at 57% to oscars 82 at 24% and that Judge who scored it 115 to 113 for Oscar should never be aloud to judge a fight again it was that bad.
    It was a close fight you must really hate Oscar or you don't have a clue about boxing, not sure what one it is.
    Lol good reply but seriously floyd won that fight easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Oscar came quite close didn't he tho

    I remember that fight and thinking how small Floyd looked, hes grown since hasn't he?

    I also thought trout was unlucky against canelo

    and I think Matthew Hatton has a very good chin, you never know it might even be better than floyds
    I agree.

    When i first watched it i thought it was very close and felt floyd looked tiny and his punches were just stinging oscar.

    Oscar looked huge.

    Then i watched it again and comfortably scored it 8-4 in floyds favour.

    Floyd is a such a little guy and he looks as though you can just get in there and beat him up..

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