C.J. Ross - Epic Failures

[ruthless rocco]

Her bio speaks for itself. Why oh why is this incompetent woman allowed to continue judging boxing matches? Isn't there something else she can do for a living that does not involve the use of good judgement?

Her bio does not 'speaks for itself'. Certain results are picked out to strengthen one side of the argument. Ross had a bad night last night, as shown not for the first time. But there were times where Ross would of done her job well.

george foreman is wrong about jazz and you are wrong about cj ross @Britkid.
she is clearly incompetent and a lot of the best jazz is extremely well liked.

[Britkid]

george foreman is wrong about jazz and you are wrong about cj ross @Britkid .
she is clearly incompetent and a lot of the best jazz is extremely well liked.

Where does the clearness in the incompetence come from? She had a bad day at work this morning; she had another bad day with Pacquiao. I think also she has performed poorly in other fights. But I suspect most of the time she is very good at her job. Maybe she could do with some more 'training' in dealing with the big fights. That may involve her being 'rested' for a while. But it does seem very harsh to call someone incompetent with so little evidence. I know I would be out of a job, if your judgements and/or standards were used.

You are being too ruthless rocco!

As for George, you may have a point, he was certainly 'unique' in many of his traits, and that probably includes judging jazz.

[TitoFan]

george foreman is wrong about jazz and you are wrong about cj ross @Britkid .
she is clearly incompetent and a lot of the best jazz is extremely well liked.

Where does the clearness in the incompetence come from? She had a bad day at work this morning; she had another bad day with Pacquiao. I think also she has performed poorly in other fights. But I suspect most of the time she is very good at her job. Maybe she could do with some more 'training' in dealing with the big fights. That may involve her being 'rested' for a while. But it does seem very harsh to call someone incompetent with so little evidence. I know I would be out of a job, if your judgements and/or standards were used.

You are being too ruthless rocco!

As for George, you may have a point, he was certainly 'unique' in many of his traits, and that probably includes judging jazz.

Reread your statement above, Britkid. You're being (IMO) a bit too forgiving in this case. We're talking major mega-fights here, not your average run-of-the-mill fights. Efforts should be made to have the best judges available..... not someone who tends to have "bad days at the office." A PPV with the huge buildup and implications this fight had should not be left to chance by some mediocre judge.

[Silkeyjoe]

george foreman is wrong about jazz and you are wrong about cj ross @Britkid .
she is clearly incompetent and a lot of the best jazz is extremely well liked.

Where does the clearness in the incompetence come from? She had a bad day at work this morning; she had another bad day with Pacquiao. I think also she has performed poorly in other fights. But I suspect most of the time she is very good at her job. Maybe she could do with some more 'training' in dealing with the big fights. That may involve her being 'rested' for a while. But it does seem very harsh to call someone incompetent with so little evidence. I know I would be out of a job, if your judgements and/or standards were used.

You are being too ruthless rocco!

As for George, you may have a point, he was certainly 'unique' in many of his traits, and that probably includes judging jazz.

Reread your statement above, Britkid. You're being (IMO) a bit too forgiving in this case. We're talking major mega-fights here, not your average run-of-the-mill fights. Efforts should be made to have the best judges available..... not someone who tends to have "bad days at the office." A PPV with the huge buildup and implications this fight had should not be left to chance by some mediocre judge.

Absolute retarded logic from Britkid. Watch the fight. There is no way you can score that a draw. I am probably more forgiving of judges then most but ffs that was shocking. Clearly she doesnt understand what a scoring punch is and needs to be given the boot.

[Britkid]

Absolute retarded logic from Britkid. Watch the fight. There is no way you can score that a draw. I am probably more forgiving of judges then most but ffs that was shocking.

I think to be fair I am not saying she was right

Clearly she doesnt understand what a scoring punch is and needs to be given the boot.

Again where does it show she 'clearly' does not understand what a scoring punch is? I am confident she does, and thus am prepared to believe she had a poor day at the office, because otherwise I can only come to one other conclusion.

[Silkeyjoe]

Absolute retarded logic from Britkid. Watch the fight. There is no way you can score that a draw. I am probably more forgiving of judges then most but ffs that was shocking.

I think to be fair I am not saying she was right

Clearly she doesnt understand what a scoring punch is and needs to be given the boot.

Again where does it show she 'clearly' does understand what a scoring punch is? I am confident she does, and thus am prepared to believe she had a poor day at the office, because otherwise I can only come to one other conclusion.

The fact she scored it a draw shows she does not know what a scoring punch is. Alvarez didnt land anything let alone enough to win 6 rounds.

[Britkid]

The fact she scored it a draw shows she does not know what a scoring punch is. Alvarez didnt land anything let alone enough to win 6 rounds.

I had Mayweather winning comfortable, but are you really saying Alvarez did not land a punch?

[Beanflicker]

This broad should be banned if this sport and it's athletic commisions had any integrity, but I'm sure we'll see here blowing fighting and fucking over fighters for many years to come.

[beenKOed]

george foreman is wrong about jazz and you are wrong about cj ross @Britkid .
she is clearly incompetent and a lot of the best jazz is extremely well liked.

Where does the clearness in the incompetence come from? She had a bad day at work this morning; she had another bad day with Pacquiao. I think also she has performed poorly in other fights. But I suspect most of the time she is very good at her job. Maybe she could do with some more 'training' in dealing with the big fights. That may involve her being 'rested' for a while. But it does seem very harsh to call someone incompetent with so little evidence. I know I would be out of a job, if your judgements and/or standards were used.

You are being too ruthless rocco!

As for George, you may have a point, he was certainly 'unique' in many of his traits, and that probably includes judging jazz.

Sir, stop and think for a minute, she had the Canelo vs Floyd fight a draw. That's not a "bad day" or a "bad night" at work. The lady does not know how to judge a fight, she should not be judging fights big or small.
She was listening to the crowd instead of watching the fight, it's that or she is corrupt. I do not believe in justifying a judge's poor performance, they should be held to the highest standard possible.
She had a "bad day" is a terrible, terrible, terrible excuse!

[Spicoli]

Scrutiny, this is what judges NEED. It's an opportunity with a mega fight like this to put a moon beam on crappy judging because we all know it happens every weekend not named Canelo and Mayweather and ya hardly hear a peep. I flip up the craptop this morning and the first thing I see on yahoo is judges in question. One thing that strikes me is...make these judges travel!!! Just as fighters. I don't think Ross has left the state of Nevada too often, its a comfort zone. See the same boxers over and over and it has to form a tilted familiarity when some guy comes to hometown for first time.

[Britkid]

Sir, stop and think for a minute, she had the Canelo vs Floyd fight a draw. That's not a "bad day" or a "bad night" at work. The lady does not know how to judge a fight, she should not be judging fights big or small.

She does know how to judge a fight, she has a career to back that up.

She was listening to the crowd instead of watching the fight, it's that or she is corrupt. I do not believe in justifying a judge's poor performance, they should be held to the highest standard possible.
She had a "bad day" is a terrible, terrible, terrible excuse!

Judges should rightly be pointed out when they make very bad decisions. I also agree it is important in such big fights the best available judges should be used. Looking back I did not see either camp complaining about her, in a fight that I think most figured would go the distance. As I do not think and have no evidence to suggest she is corrupt, I conclude to be constructive I need to look at the mind set of how a very competent judge got it wrong. I assume its comes down to the abstract aspects of judging, the stuff that is judging but cannot be written down. Ross got that very wrong, and it needs to be rectified, and I hope it is.

[smashup]

Fuck me of course she's corrupt 100%.

She definitely shouldn't be involved in big fights ever again and definitely should be investigated then forensics should swab her for Oscar jizz .

Thing is boxing is organised crime/corrupt firstly and Sport second.... always has been and always will be.

Yes she should be held accountable but The right man got the result here and I've seen far worse scoring many times in high profile fights.... Lennox mugged against Holyfield was probably the worst I've seen.

Judges are toying with fighters lives when they are paid off/leant on ... look at what happened to Michael Watson in the 2nd Eubank fight after he won the 1st by a mile ;-).

[TitoFan]

Y! SPORTS




This article points out two obvious facts:

1. Just how horrendous and borderline criminal this old lady's scoring of the fight was.

and.....

2. That no matter what Canelo fans want to think, it was a blowout and a shutout.... plain and simple. No "ifs, ands, or buts". Not since Floyd pitched a no-hitter at the hapless (albeit undersized) Juan Manuel Marquez, had he enjoyed such an easy day at the office.

[jehoshaphat]

How does one make it to the top of any occupation by being inept? This lady is straight up corrupt. She did this not once but at least twice! And how does an organization find out if someone is corrupt if they don't even investigate? Because they don't care and that's probably got a lot to do with even more corruption. The messed up part is even the 116-112 scorecard was pushing for Alvarez to win and that now somehow seems fair because of the atrocious CJ Ross card. The judges in the Lara/Williams fight were suspended and investigated and this fight was even more one sided. CJ Ross did this twice at the very top level of sports!!!