C.J. Ross - Epic Failures

[Britkid]

The fact she scored it a draw shows she does not know what a scoring punch is. Alvarez didnt land anything let alone enough to win 6 rounds.

I had Mayweather winning comfortable, but are you really saying Alvarez did not land a punch?

[p4pking]

For christs sake Britkid, we aren't talking about a brain surgeon here. Why do you doubt that she is corrupt; is it really more outlandish to suggest that than it is to argue the merit of scoring that fight even? There is absolutely no excuse for that scorecard and to justify it by citing her experience is ridiculous.

[ruthless rocco]

CJ Ross digs deep....

Boxing News | C.J. Ross: I stand behind my decision

someone check her and her family's bank accounts!!!

i'm pretty sure if you cross reference the cost of Oscar's rehab with amount CJ Ross' bank balance just jumped they'll be awfully similar.

[Britkid]

For christs sake Britkid, we aren't talking about a brain surgeon here. Why do you doubt that she is corrupt; is it really more outlandish to suggest that than it is to argue the merit of scoring that fight even? There is absolutely no excuse for that scorecard and to justify it by citing her experience is ridiculous.

I doubt anyone here has not done something absolutely ridiculous in their job/life. And it was not because they are corrupt, it is just they are human...

If judging boxing was as simple as getting a computer to count punches, we would have had that by now. Amateur boxing tried it to a degree, and I think most agree it added not took away from the problem. Part of the beauty of boxing is that it is far from perfect. So the woman had a poor day at the office. Well no one died, and still the right person won.

I know I am guilty as most, by why all the negativity? We have just watched the finest fighter of the 21st Century put on a master class. At his age and with his style, it maybe the last time we see such brilliance from him, so lets make the most of that, rather than letting a poor bit of judgement overshadow things.

[Silkeyjoe]

For christs sake Britkid, we aren't talking about a brain surgeon here. Why do you doubt that she is corrupt; is it really more outlandish to suggest that than it is to argue the merit of scoring that fight even? There is absolutely no excuse for that scorecard and to justify it by citing her experience is ridiculous.

I doubt anyone here has not done something absolutely ridiculous in their job/life. And it was not because they are corrupt, it is just they are human...

If judging boxing was as simple as getting a computer to count punches, we would have had that by now. Amateur boxing tried it to a degree, and I think most agree it added not took away from the problem. Part of the beauty of boxing is that it is far from perfect. So the woman had a poor day at the office. Well no one died, and still the right person won.

I know I am guilty as most, by why all the negativity? We have just watched the finest fighter of the 21st Century put on a master class. At his age and with his style, it maybe the last time we see such brilliance from him, so lets make the most of that, rather than letting a poor bit of judgement overshadow things.

People like you is whats wrong with boxing. You accept this bullshit and corruption like so many others which allows it to continue.

[IamInuit]

You would have to go back to ancient Greece and find a card scored by a series of grunts to equal this horse shit Ross card.

[Spicoli]

Nearly all of us here are whats right with the sport and have done our time so to speak. No need to knee cap anyone becuase we differ. There does have to be a zero tolerance level for skewed or shady judging. All the debate here has not been that a strong case can be shown as to support the judge but that she made a mistake. If I make a mistake at the highest level in my job performance, I like many others are called to the mat suspended, demoted and or fired.

[Britkid]

People like you is whats wrong with boxing. You accept this bullshit and corruption like so many others which allows it to continue.

I am all ears my friend, give me a realistic plan that is going to sort out a sport that has been corrupt for thousands years in its different forms...

I do not accept corruption, I recognize it and realize there is little that can be done. It is the only way you can be a long term 'hardcore' boxing fan, otherwise you just go round in circles in almost comical mock horror at every wrong.

I suspect the older members of this forum remember me getting on my high horse about Riddick Bowe's comeback almost a decade ago. I was never having anything to do with the sport again if he came back! Well he did, and I am still here. Bowe's comeback faded to nothing, and I realized what a dick I was being. And thinking about it in this era I do not believe there is anything in the sport that would get me that 'excited' again. It is far from perfect, but I can live with that. This morning Mayweather put on a masterclass and won the fight, that is all there is to know. No one cares that Hearns domination of Benitez went down as a majority decision, in a few weeks no one will care Lil Floyd's victory was too a majority win...

[Beanz]

For christs sake Britkid, we aren't talking about a brain surgeon here. Why do you doubt that she is corrupt; is it really more outlandish to suggest that than it is to argue the merit of scoring that fight even? There is absolutely no excuse for that scorecard and to justify it by citing her experience is ridiculous.

I doubt anyone here has not done something absolutely ridiculous in their job/life. And it was not because they are corrupt, it is just they are human...

If judging boxing was as simple as getting a computer to count punches, we would have had that by now. Amateur boxing tried it to a degree, and I think most agree it added not took away from the problem. Part of the beauty of boxing is that it is far from perfect. So the woman had a poor day at the office. Well no one died, and still the right person won.

I know I am guilty as most, by why all the negativity? We have just watched the finest fighter of the 21st Century put on a master class. At his age and with his style, it maybe the last time we see such brilliance from him, so lets make the most of that, rather than letting a poor bit of judgement overshadow things.

People like you is whats wrong with boxing. You accept this bullshit and corruption like so many others which allows it to continue.

Well at least Bob Arum is of the hook if BritKid is what's wrong with boxing

[p4pking]

Exactly! If you are a professional anything at a high level then expectations should be high and mistakes scrutinized, the fact that boxing is subjective should not be an end all to this, it's within reason. The right guy won in spite of this awful judge, it's not exactly a footnote and were there two of her we would have had a dominant performance in the highest profile fight in years become a farce. Anyone who doesn't think this stuff hurts the sport is high if you ask me.

[IamInuit]

Justify a draw? Show me the rounds? Show me a round that Alvarez clearly won?

[walrus]

Terrible score and it stunned me last night. I would chalk it up to extreme stupidity on her part. I have a hard time believing she would risk corruption in such spotlight. That could be naive of me but it was so blatantly bad it just seems she would basically be announcing her corruption with a loudspeaker.

[p4pking]

For christs sake Britkid, we aren't talking about a brain surgeon here. Why do you doubt that she is corrupt; is it really more outlandish to suggest that than it is to argue the merit of scoring that fight even? There is absolutely no excuse for that scorecard and to justify it by citing her experience is ridiculous.

I doubt anyone here has not done something absolutely ridiculous in their job/life. And it was not because they are corrupt, it is just they are human...

If judging boxing was as simple as getting a computer to count punches, we would have had that by now. Amateur boxing tried it to a degree, and I think most agree it added not took away from the problem. Part of the beauty of boxing is that it is far from perfect. So the woman had a poor day at the office. Well no one died, and still the right person won.

I know I am guilty as most, by why all the negativity? We have just watched the finest fighter of the 21st Century put on a master class. At his age and with his style, it maybe the last time we see such brilliance from him, so lets make the most of that, rather than letting a poor bit of judgement overshadow things.

Because I'm a negative cunt, but thats besides the point. Just as is the fact that Mayweather got the win, when we are talking about this specific judge who didn't give it to him. If people are extremely successful and achieve notoriety in their field, then absolute screw ups shouldn't be tolerated. That's like saying every ships Captain should be given a pass for running aground or hitting a fucking iceberg now and then, only human right. A bad day at the office could be giving Canelo 3 or 4 rounds instead of 1 or 2, but not 6. This lady is either corrupt or woefully inept, I don't see how you can spin it otherwise.

[Britkid]

Because I'm a negative cunt, but thats besides the point. Just as is the fact that Mayweather got the win, when we are talking about this specific judge who didn't give it to him. If people are extremely successful and achieve notoriety in their field, then absolute screw ups shouldn't be tolerated. That's like saying every ships Captain should be given a pass for running aground or hitting a fucking iceberg now and then, only human right. A bad day at the office could be giving Canelo 3 or 4 rounds instead of 1 or 2, but not 6. This lady is either corrupt or woefully inept, I don't see how you can spin it otherwise.

A Captain running a ground could have fatal consequences, at best it is going to cause real problems for the people on the boat. Ross scored a bout a draw that I think most disagree with. In the end it did not matter, as her opinion did not count in the verdict as two of her peers scored the fight for Lil Floyd. Why all the fuss, Ross does not matter in this fight?

As for corruption where is the evidence? Where is the need to investigate? I am not American, but if I was, I would not want more tax dollars spent on something like this, that will almost certainly lead to nothing.

[ruthless rocco]

Because I'm a negative cunt, but thats besides the point. Just as is the fact that Mayweather got the win, when we are talking about this specific judge who didn't give it to him. If people are extremely successful and achieve notoriety in their field, then absolute screw ups shouldn't be tolerated. That's like saying every ships Captain should be given a pass for running aground or hitting a fucking iceberg now and then, only human right. A bad day at the office could be giving Canelo 3 or 4 rounds instead of 1 or 2, but not 6. This lady is either corrupt or woefully inept, I don't see how you can spin it otherwise.

A Captain running a ground could have fatal consequences, at best it is going to cause real problems for the people on the boat. Ross scored a bout a draw that I think most disagree with. In the end it did not matter, as her opinion did not count in the verdict as two of her peers scored the fight for Lil Floyd. Why all the fuss, Ross does not matter in this fight?

As for corruption where is the evidence? Where is the need to investigate? I am not American, but if I was, I would not want more tax dollars spent on something like this, that will almost certainly lead to nothing.

her score did count! how many dollars were won and lost by her calling it a draw. what would the payouts have been for UD vs MD? how many lives were affected by that? as a judge you have a responsibility beyond the two fighter's records and reputations. there's a $100billion sports gambling industry that relies on fair and impartial judging. and regular citizens who gamble are being robbed when some one doesn't judge the contest fairly and objectively.

not to mention shitting where you eat.