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    Default Re: The "How to beat Floyd Mayweather" thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stickgrappler View Post
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    I honestly think the only way to beat him is with speed. If you look at his opponents there's no speedsters. Judah was one of his tougher fights and he has avoided fast guys since. I honestly believe a guy like Khan has the best chance of beating him, but a khan with a better chin. Mallignaggi would also be an interesting opponent.
    I've always thought that with Khan its more the when he gets plugged then having a below par chin. The only other guy in the weight area that I have seen step straight back like he does is his countrymen Kell Brook. Not only does Khan pull straight back but he does it like a post standing completely upright, lead hand down with his chin in the air testing the wind speed.

    I've never watched Khan fight, but isn't Freddie Roach his coach? would've Roach have corrected that already?
    You would think so but he couldn't stop Manny from darting in and out and getting caught with Juans right hand in 4 fights. I think there is a stage where certain mistakes almost become impossible to break. I think it might be something Khan did in the amateurs and got away with because he was so much more skilled then his opponents.Oddly enough Kell Brook does the exact same thing. Shane never stopped closing his eyes when he threw punches and even in the pocket. It 's probably why he was so easy to hit and yet he never changed.Its almost like the mistakes become subconscious. The more I worry about not moving my head when I tee off the more I move it. The worst thing that happens with that is I loose one of the balls I found earlier on the course. I'd wager that Khan gets stopped by Alexander via a left hook moving straight back. Having said all that lol I still feel that he has the abilities to give Mayweathers approach to fights fits.

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    Default Re: The "How to beat Floyd Mayweather" thread...

    IamInuit,

    Ah, thanks... practice doesn't make pefect, "perfect practice makes perfect'... Khan had already ingrained bad habits into his 'muscle memory' and guess no matter what Freddie did, he couldn't correct it.
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    Default Re: The "How to beat Floyd Mayweather" thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stickgrappler View Post
    IamInuit,

    Ah, thanks... practice doesn't make pefect, "perfect practice makes perfect'... Khan had already ingrained bad habits into his 'muscle memory' and guess no matter what Freddie did, he couldn't correct it.
    I looked at the puck in various degrees until I got to Midget A hockey. I just never got caught at the blue line with my head down before.

    All of these guys are elite fighters brother and you know its easy for us to say but certain fighters do rinse and repeat both offense and defense and one does not have to be Archer or Futch to see it. The other fighter in the pocket sees it hence the result. I dont think a world class trainer is needed to point this out. Khan is living evidence of this. He's without a doubt one of the most gifted boxers on the planet minus a functional brain pan. A woulda, coulda long after I'm dead.

    Manny is a great example. The darting in. The opening for the straight right. Even with that it took Marquez 4 fights to land the perfect shot. So why would a guy change a fault that the second best counter puncher in the world could not cash in on?

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    Default Re: The "How to beat Floyd Mayweather" thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Stickgrappler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    I honestly think the only way to beat him is with speed. If you look at his opponents there's no speedsters. Judah was one of his tougher fights and he has avoided fast guys since. I honestly believe a guy like Khan has the best chance of beating him, but a khan with a better chin. Mallignaggi would also be an interesting opponent.
    I've always thought that with Khan its more the when he gets plugged then having a below par chin. The only other guy in the weight area that I have seen step straight back like he does is his countrymen Kell Brook. Not only does Khan pull straight back but he does it like a post standing completely upright, lead hand down with his chin in the air testing the wind speed.

    I've never watched Khan fight, but isn't Freddie Roach his coach? would've Roach have corrected that already?
    You would think so but he couldn't stop Manny from darting in and out and getting caught with Juans right hand in 4 fights. I think there is a stage where certain mistakes almost become impossible to break. I think it might be something Khan did in the amateurs and got away with because he was so much more skilled then his opponents.Oddly enough Kell Brook does the exact same thing. Shane never stopped closing his eyes when he threw punches and even in the pocket. It 's probably why he was so easy to hit and yet he never changed.Its almost like the mistakes become subconscious. The more I worry about not moving my head when I tee off the more I move it. The worst thing that happens with that is I loose one of the balls I found earlier on the course. I'd wager that Khan gets stopped by Alexander via a left hook moving straight back. Having said all that lol I still feel that he has the abilities to give Mayweathers approach to fights fits.
    Which fighter has Roach improved skill set "0" . Rode Pac's ass into fame / fortune and hall of fame. Roach is just not a very good trainer.

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