Why Boxing has to be respected

[Violent Demise]

The 98-92 scorecard was ridiculous. Actually so was the 97-93 card. 96-94 was fine. If you prefer a lot of jabs and patty cake punches than Vera won. If you prefer harder, cleaner punches than how can anybody make a case for Vera winning? Either way, I wish they would of gave Vera the win. Not necessarily cuz he earned it. But for respecting boxing. He kept himself in shape. Didn't complain. And went out there and just fought. Chavez needed a reality check. He thought he could get by on talent alone and didn't bother training. He disrespected boxing. Boxing doesn't take disrespect from any fighter. No matter what name he carries. Chavez should of blown Vera away. He didn't. It's an embarrassment that Vera can even make a case for winning. Boxing showed Chavez it will humble him if it has to. Chavez will be in shape for his next fight.

This thread may as well read "why you can't be respected". Chavez jr only landed a handful of punches per round even in his best few, and Vera was not throwing patty cake anything. He was very undersized and didn't have the power to hurt Jr, but aside from being off balance he was never hugely affected by anything he took either. Since when is a consistent jab not a big factor in scoring a fight like that? If Jr was Puerto Rican you would be more outraged than anyone. And for the record, I think you know a lot about the sport. You are just such a blind twit when there is a nationalistic angle or a chance to wind up others that it goes right out the window.

Because Vera is Japanese right? He's fucking Mexican as well. Don't agree with what I say. That's fine. But lets not get stupid.

[p4pking]

The 98-92 scorecard was ridiculous. Actually so was the 97-93 card. 96-94 was fine. If you prefer a lot of jabs and patty cake punches than Vera won. If you prefer harder, cleaner punches than how can anybody make a case for Vera winning? Either way, I wish they would of gave Vera the win. Not necessarily cuz he earned it. But for respecting boxing. He kept himself in shape. Didn't complain. And went out there and just fought. Chavez needed a reality check. He thought he could get by on talent alone and didn't bother training. He disrespected boxing. Boxing doesn't take disrespect from any fighter. No matter what name he carries. Chavez should of blown Vera away. He didn't. It's an embarrassment that Vera can even make a case for winning. Boxing showed Chavez it will humble him if it has to. Chavez will be in shape for his next fight.

This thread may as well read "why you can't be respected". Chavez jr only landed a handful of punches per round even in his best few, and Vera was not throwing patty cake anything. He was very undersized and didn't have the power to hurt Jr, but aside from being off balance he was never hugely affected by anything he took either. Since when is a consistent jab not a big factor in scoring a fight like that? If Jr was Puerto Rican you would be more outraged than anyone. And for the record, I think you know a lot about the sport. You are just such a blind twit when there is a nationalistic angle or a chance to wind up others that it goes right out the window.

Because Vera is Japanese right? He's fucking Mexican as well. Don't agree with what I say. That's fine. But lets not get stupid.

I did say OR a chance to wind up other posters Obviously you've invested a fair bit in your support of Jr as well over the last couple of years. But hey, only respond to that one half a sentence, that's fine to.

[Violent Demise]

The 98-92 scorecard was ridiculous. Actually so was the 97-93 card. 96-94 was fine. If you prefer a lot of jabs and patty cake punches than Vera won. If you prefer harder, cleaner punches than how can anybody make a case for Vera winning? Either way, I wish they would of gave Vera the win. Not necessarily cuz he earned it. But for respecting boxing. He kept himself in shape. Didn't complain. And went out there and just fought. Chavez needed a reality check. He thought he could get by on talent alone and didn't bother training. He disrespected boxing. Boxing doesn't take disrespect from any fighter. No matter what name he carries. Chavez should of blown Vera away. He didn't. It's an embarrassment that Vera can even make a case for winning. Boxing showed Chavez it will humble him if it has to. Chavez will be in shape for his next fight.

This thread may as well read "why you can't be respected". Chavez jr only landed a handful of punches per round even in his best few, and Vera was not throwing patty cake anything. He was very undersized and didn't have the power to hurt Jr, but aside from being off balance he was never hugely affected by anything he took either. Since when is a consistent jab not a big factor in scoring a fight like that? If Jr was Puerto Rican you would be more outraged than anyone. And for the record, I think you know a lot about the sport. You are just such a blind twit when there is a nationalistic angle or a chance to wind up others that it goes right out the window.

Because Vera is Japanese right? He's fucking Mexican as well. Don't agree with what I say. That's fine. But lets not get stupid.

I did say OR a chance to wind up other posters Obviously you've invested a fair bit in your support of Jr as well over the last couple of years. But hey, only respond to that one half a sentence, that's fine to.

I don't mind a difference of opinion. Especially from one who has good knowledge of the sport. Which I think you do. I read the good parts. Compare the points with mine. And respond when I feel there's a need to respond. Which could be at that moment or a couple of posts later. Stupidity I'm just gonna point out right away

[p4pking]

Well alright. There's a reason I prefaced the nationalist point with saying if JR was Puerto Rican you would be singing a different tune, thought that was pretty obvious and it's telling that you don't try to address that.

[Violent Demise]

Well alright. There's a reason I prefaced the nationalist point with saying if JR was Puerto Rican you would be singing a different tune, thought that was pretty obvious and it's telling that you don't try to address that.

If Chavez Jr was Puerto Rican he would of quit.

[p4pking]

Well alright. There's a reason I prefaced the nationalist point with saying if JR was Puerto Rican you would be singing a different tune, thought that was pretty obvious and it's telling that you don't try to address that.

If Chavez Jr was Puerto Rican he would of quit.

Funny; but in all seriousness, if he were, and the fight had been exactly the same, you would think much differently about the outcome.

[IamInuit]

LMAO

Empirical = observation, experience and repeatability. Just like how facts are established.

[outspoken]

Well alright. There's a reason I prefaced the nationalist point with saying if JR was Puerto Rican you would be singing a different tune, thought that was pretty obvious and it's telling that you don't try to address that.

If Chavez Jr was Puerto Rican he would of quit.

LMFAO, I'm sorry but that was hilarious.

[Scott22]

Well alright. There's a reason I prefaced the nationalist point with saying if JR was Puerto Rican you would be singing a different tune, thought that was pretty obvious and it's telling that you don't try to address that.

If Chavez Jr was Puerto Rican he would of quit.

LOL. That's just wrong.

[Dark Lord Al]

Hey VD are you saying Puerto Rican's always quit ? is that a fact .

[ElTerribleMorales]

Well alright. There's a reason I prefaced the nationalist point with saying if JR was Puerto Rican you would be singing a different tune, thought that was pretty obvious and it's telling that you don't try to address that.

If Chavez Jr was Puerto Rican he would of quit.

If Chavez Jr was Puerto Rican he would have made weight the first time around, he wouldn't have age, experience, and weight on his side and still get his ass kicked......wait a sec, didn't that same scenario happen a couple weeks ago?!?

and VD and Jr keeping true to tradition and making excuses to why the coddled one got his ass beat by the guy who was on The Pretender lol Chavez should be 1-3 against former cast members of The Contender hahaha,

and now I'll leave you hilarious post fight quotes from Jr lol

"I definitely won seven or eight rounds of the fight," Chavez said. "I was very close to knocking him out like three times in the fight."

"He hit me with like 20 headbutts and low blows" "He was finished in the 10th"

[Beanflicker]

I haven't seen the fight but I've heard the opinion of people who I respect and usually agree with saying they thought Vera beat him convincingly.

It's just a sad fact in boxing that there is no consistency when it comes to the scoring of a fight, and unless you stop a guy there's no telling who is going to win when the scorecards are handed out.

[TitoFan]

I haven't seen the fight but I've heard the opinion of people who I respect and usually agree with saying they thought Vera beat him convincingly.

It's just a sad fact in boxing that there is no consistency when it comes to the scoring of a fight, and unless you stop a guy there's no telling who is going to win when the scorecards are handed out.

Agree with your post... except maybe the last part. If Chavez Jr. is involved, chances are unless he gets stopped, he's getting the decision. The fact that Martinez got the nod in their fight is a testament to just how badly Sergio schooled and dominated the kid. Otherwise, it could've been another shady decision.

[Beanflicker]

Agree with your post... except maybe the last part. If Chavez Jr. is involved, chances are unless he gets stopped, he's getting the decision. The fact that Martinez got the nod in their fight is a testament to just how badly Sergio schooled and dominated the kid. Otherwise, it could've been another shady decision.

Right. I guess the gameplan is to continue to fight in a weight class he has no business being in, against much smaller guys who are known to not have much power like Vera.

JCC Jr is turning into quite a joke.

[SugarBoxing]

we need the next (third) Coming of Sugar Ray to save the boxing