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    Quote Originally Posted by bigstinkybug View Post
    *i'll say this..in my youth, I didn't care for Sweet pea's style... AT ALL...not that i'm older, I can't take my eyes off him... it's funny how things change and the way u see them,
    I use to watch Pernell a lot and could never figure his style and why other fighters could not hit never mind beat him. He had great body work and conditioning but I was not a fan but admired his skills in beating Chavez, Buddy McGirt, Nelson and the british fighter Jacobs. The way he beat Vasquez at light middle was pure quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bigstinkybug View Post
    *i'll say this..in my youth, I didn't care for Sweet pea's style... AT ALL...not that i'm older, I can't take my eyes off him... it's funny how things change and the way u see them,
    I use to watch Pernell a lot and could never figure his style and why other fighters could not hit never mind beat him. He had great body work and conditioning but I was not a fan but admired his skills in beating Chavez, Buddy McGirt, Nelson and the british fighter Jacobs. The way he beat Vasquez at light middle was pure quality.

    *im not sure the average fan knows just how animalistic Vasquez was when Pernel beat him... Vasquez was a VERY tuff fighter... would he beat the likes of canelo ,now..maybe... that's how good he was, and how good pernell was.
    i'm the same as u, I would think"why can't he be hit. it'always pisses me off that I never got in the ring with Pernell... he'd wander into San Fernando Gym in San Antonio every now and again..no fan-fare... he'd be in town and would go to the gym. I remember hitting the bag once and saying.."that's pernell over there"..all alone shadow boxing... I wish I had been in shape and got I the ring with, just to see what his thing was. I was a jabbing futhafka with a viscious hook,,, Tony Ayala once called my hook "a work of art"...
    Another time, i'm hitting the bag... and the guy behing me is Orlando Canizalez... I nod my head, a slight "whats up"motion and continue on my busness..I turn to the bag and there's Gabby...


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigstinkybug View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigstinkybug View Post
    *i'll say this..in my youth, I didn't care for Sweet pea's style... AT ALL...not that i'm older, I can't take my eyes off him... it's funny how things change and the way u see them,
    I use to watch Pernell a lot and could never figure his style and why other fighters could not hit never mind beat him. He had great body work and conditioning but I was not a fan but admired his skills in beating Chavez, Buddy McGirt, Nelson and the british fighter Jacobs. The way he beat Vasquez at light middle was pure quality.

    *im not sure the average fan knows just how animalistic Vasquez was when Pernel beat him... Vasquez was a VERY tuff fighter... would he beat the likes of canelo ,now..maybe... that's how good he was, and how good pernell was.
    i'm the same as u, I would think"why can't he be hit. it'always pisses me off that I never got in the ring with Pernell... he'd wander into San Fernando Gym in San Antonio every now and again..no fan-fare... he'd be in town and would go to the gym. I remember hitting the bag once and saying.."that's pernell over there"..all alone shadow boxing... I wish I had been in shape and got I the ring with, just to see what his thing was. I was a jabbing futhafka with a viscious hook,,, Tony Ayala once called my hook "a work of art"...
    Another time, i'm hitting the bag... and the guy behing me is Orlando Canizalez... I nod my head, a slight "whats up"motion and continue on my busness..I turn to the bag and there's Gabby...

    I couldn't stand Whitaker either, not a bit. Likewise I came to respect him off the Chavez fight where I sat up straight and looked past his cocky clowny ways that were there and the Vasquez win was quality. Vazquez was a pure comer with whipping power and a very sharp left hand who never stopped chugging. He wasn't tremendous when facing a quality boxer, Davis could make a case for a win and Wright did well in between all those KDS and slips but Vaquez was no joke and if you got careless like Daniels, he could detonate you with a single shot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bigstinkybug View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bigstinkybug View Post
    *i'll say this..in my youth, I didn't care for Sweet pea's style... AT ALL...not that i'm older, I can't take my eyes off him... it's funny how things change and the way u see them,
    I use to watch Pernell a lot and could never figure his style and why other fighters could not hit never mind beat him. He had great body work and conditioning but I was not a fan but admired his skills in beating Chavez, Buddy McGirt, Nelson and the british fighter Jacobs. The way he beat Vasquez at light middle was pure quality.

    *im not sure the average fan knows just how animalistic Vasquez was when Pernel beat him... Vasquez was a VERY tuff fighter... would he beat the likes of canelo ,now..maybe... that's how good he was, and how good pernell was.
    i'm the same as u, I would think"why can't he be hit. it'always pisses me off that I never got in the ring with Pernell... he'd wander into San Fernando Gym in San Antonio every now and again..no fan-fare... he'd be in town and would go to the gym. I remember hitting the bag once and saying.."that's pernell over there"..all alone shadow boxing... I wish I had been in shape and got I the ring with, just to see what his thing was. I was a jabbing futhafka with a viscious hook,,, Tony Ayala once called my hook "a work of art"...
    Another time, i'm hitting the bag... and the guy behing me is Orlando Canizalez... I nod my head, a slight "whats up"motion and continue on my busness..I turn to the bag and there's Gabby...

    I couldn't stand Whitaker either, not a bit. Likewise I came to respect him off the Chavez fight where I sat up straight and looked past his cocky clowny ways that were there and the Vasquez win was quality. Vazquez was a pure comer with whipping power and a very sharp left hand who never stopped chugging. He wasn't tremendous when facing a quality boxer, Davis could make a case for a win and Wright did well in between all those KDS and slips but Vaquez was no joke and if you got careless like Daniels, he could detonate you with a single shot!
    Now would you agree with me when I say Floyd has done nothing more than what Pernell did a few years ago earlier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigstinkybug View Post
    *i'll say this..in my youth, I didn't care for Sweet pea's style... AT ALL...not that i'm older, I can't take my eyes off him... it's funny how things change and the way u see them,
    I use to watch Pernell a lot and could never figure his style and why other fighters could not hit never mind beat him. He had great body work and conditioning but I was not a fan but admired his skills in beating Chavez, Buddy McGirt, Nelson and the british fighter Jacobs. The way he beat Vasquez at light middle was pure quality.

    *im not sure the average fan knows just how animalistic Vasquez was when Pernel beat him... Vasquez was a VERY tuff fighter... would he beat the likes of canelo ,now..maybe... that's how good he was, and how good pernell was.
    i'm the same as u, I would think"why can't he be hit. it'always pisses me off that I never got in the ring with Pernell... he'd wander into San Fernando Gym in San Antonio every now and again..no fan-fare... he'd be in town and would go to the gym. I remember hitting the bag once and saying.."that's pernell over there"..all alone shadow boxing... I wish I had been in shape and got I the ring with, just to see what his thing was. I was a jabbing futhafka with a viscious hook,,, Tony Ayala once called my hook "a work of art"...
    Another time, i'm hitting the bag... and the guy behing me is Orlando Canizalez... I nod my head, a slight "whats up"motion and continue on my busness..I turn to the bag and there's Gabby...

    I couldn't stand Whitaker either, not a bit. Likewise I came to respect him off the Chavez fight where I sat up straight and looked past his cocky clowny ways that were there and the Vasquez win was quality. Vazquez was a pure comer with whipping power and a very sharp left hand who never stopped chugging. He wasn't tremendous when facing a quality boxer, Davis could make a case for a win and Wright did well in between all those KDS and slips but Vaquez was no joke and if you got careless like Daniels, he could detonate you with a single shot!
    Now would you agree with me when I say Floyd has done nothing more than what Pernell did a few years ago earlier?
    For sure, but I do think Whitaker did it bigger and to me Vazquez was more of a fluid live and seasoned threat who showed different gears...hindsight being 20-20. Also none of that catchweight bullcrap. Whitaker had to get off the canvas and felt those body shots early but that was a masterclass display.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigstinkybug View Post
    *i'll say this..in my youth, I didn't care for Sweet pea's style... AT ALL...not that i'm older, I can't take my eyes off him... it's funny how things change and the way u see them,
    I use to watch Pernell a lot and could never figure his style and why other fighters could not hit never mind beat him. He had great body work and conditioning but I was not a fan but admired his skills in beating Chavez, Buddy McGirt, Nelson and the british fighter Jacobs. The way he beat Vasquez at light middle was pure quality.

    *im not sure the average fan knows just how animalistic Vasquez was when Pernel beat him... Vasquez was a VERY tuff fighter... would he beat the likes of canelo ,now..maybe... that's how good he was, and how good pernell was.
    i'm the same as u, I would think"why can't he be hit. it'always pisses me off that I never got in the ring with Pernell... he'd wander into San Fernando Gym in San Antonio every now and again..no fan-fare... he'd be in town and would go to the gym. I remember hitting the bag once and saying.."that's pernell over there"..all alone shadow boxing... I wish I had been in shape and got I the ring with, just to see what his thing was. I was a jabbing futhafka with a viscious hook,,, Tony Ayala once called my hook "a work of art"...
    Another time, i'm hitting the bag... and the guy behing me is Orlando Canizalez... I nod my head, a slight "whats up"motion and continue on my busness..I turn to the bag and there's Gabby...

    I couldn't stand Whitaker either, not a bit. Likewise I came to respect him off the Chavez fight where I sat up straight and looked past his cocky clowny ways that were there and the Vasquez win was quality. Vazquez was a pure comer with whipping power and a very sharp left hand who never stopped chugging. He wasn't tremendous when facing a quality boxer, Davis could make a case for a win and Wright did well in between all those KDS and slips but Vaquez was no joke and if you got careless like Daniels, he could detonate you with a single shot!
    Now would you agree with me when I say Floyd has done nothing more than what Pernell did a few years ago earlier?
    For sure, but I do think Whitaker did it bigger and to me Vazquez was more of a fluid live and seasoned threat who showed different gears...hindsight being 20-20. Also none of that catchweight bullcrap. Whitaker had to get off the canvas and felt those body shots early but that was a masterclass display.
    This is brilliant. Some consider Floyd and Whitaker boring and yet others just as interested consider them pugilistic masters.

    I'll tell you whats boring. Spending 10 bucks on a cab in order to get to a bar to see Tyson/Seldon. Others at home would consider the 40 dollar ppv as money well spent. It matched the instant gratification of that 2 minute microwave Captain Highliner dish.

    Sorry about that butchering of the last name Capitan.
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    Default Re: p4p most disliked fighters to watch

    With all that has been said about the Pernell Whitaker appreciation society, the crux of the matter is that we would watch him only if the opponent represented a real challenge for him otherwise it would be just one way traffic and boring.
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