I have no idea why you choose to run the topic off into ane imaginary dead end away from any validity?
Of course there are alternatives that are workable in the modern world, to bring up horse and cart mentality or go back on foot and try to corner greens that way is cheap sots nearly political like.
#1 Hydrogen engines. (the original one from the 60's from out here in Australia got bought out by BP and shelved). Its was so much of a threat one brother who wouldnt be bought out just went missing the other got a service station.
You can get them these days: But only on a grass roots level they wont be manufacturing cars on mass though and its for none of your reasons stated, its because of petroleum and the world financial games governments and the money markets all have invested there.
You can get change overs though like here.. Hydrogen hybrid Conversion installed in the SF Bay Area for $1600 for most cars and small trucks. These are HOD (hydrogen on demand) nothing is stored. Gas or Diesel on hybrid or not. Plus you get a tax credit for installing hybrid hydrogen upgrades. 35%-60% gains. Talk to @HYBRIDwatercar on twitter or tinyurl.com/waterpowered.
People are lazy though and dont care so long as they are getting along and ends are being met people go with the crowd,me too guilty as charged.
I think the answer always was and forever will be found in Solar Electromagnetic energy and water.
Solar, hydrogen to helium is the answer that is right in front of us and free, but money and petroleum rules mankind for now as does electric light force energy all for sale and all used for control and all are fought over as well.
Its not hard to work out the real why.
It has nothing to do with going back on horse back or sailing from country to country those insinuations are demeaning to the conversation and turn it into an argument instead.
Of course some Chemicals and medicines are for the greater good, as are many modern things but there are limits to how far we can stretch our game before it bites us back.
We lose 30 thousand people per year in Australia just through the wrong drug being prescribed and that is just one area where we have pushed our game to far to fast at our own expense. Same with antibiotics they saved millions now they are over prescribed and are are the cause to why super bugs are now killing us.
The long term answers are never out on the extremes,or found in politics and to argue those sides for the sake of being onside is stupid the answer is balance.


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so we should just starve people out like Mao or Stalin did and then the Earth will be happy, or better yet how about mass sacrifices to Magna Mater (Mother Earth).....perhaps we can throw some virgins into volcanoes to appease our Earth Mother
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