So the Danes made first trip through the Northwest Passage. Any guess on the cargo?

[Andre]

Maybe its meant to be? We as modern humans dont follow our instincts as much we tend to out think ourselves, we think out alternatives to what should come natural and we are happy to pay later on, like later on wont exist.
Its interesting at the least. We sure wont die from boredom.

[IamInuit]

Maybe its meant to be? We as modern humans dont follow our instincts as much we tend to out think ourselves, we think out alternatives to what should come natural and we are happy to pay later on, like later on wont exist.
Its interesting at the least. We sure wont die from boredom.

I'm not convinced that we have any instincts left save fight or flight. Our direction as a species looks learned to me and also as individuals.

[El Kabong]

Oh my God!!!! Extra humidity and water vapour! We are all doomed. At least we won't get asthma.

Apparently you've never experienced 100% humidity with 90°+ heat. It would KILL YOU gramps

[IamInuit]

Nothing is more empirical then the denial.

[El Kabong]

Nothing is more empirical then the denial.

15 years.....no warming and no climate models to explain it.

[Beanz]

Oh my God!!!! Extra humidity and water vapour! We are all doomed. At least we won't get asthma.

Apparently you've never experienced 100% humidity with 90°+ heat. It would KILL YOU gramps

The air conditioning is much more likely to do me in first.

[El Kabong]

Oh my God!!!! Extra humidity and water vapour! We are all doomed. At least we won't get asthma.

Apparently you've never experienced 100% humidity with 90°+ heat. It would KILL YOU gramps

The air conditioning is much more likely to do me in first.

yes of course..... spend a summer near where I live and THEN you can talk. Hell ask Spicoli or VC about what is worse heat or humidity. You can't fathom it. I've experienced dry heat and humidity and I'm sorry but humidity makes heat oppressive. You might not want to believe that but it's true

[Andre]

Oh my God!!!! Extra humidity and water vapour! We are all doomed. At least we won't get asthma.

Apparently you've never experienced 100% humidity with 90°+ heat. It would KILL YOU gramps

The air conditioning is much more likely to do me in first.

yes of course..... spend a summer near where I live and THEN you can talk. Hell ask Spicoli or VC about what is worse heat or humidity. You can't fathom it. I've experienced dry heat and humidity and I'm sorry but humidity makes heat oppressive. You might not want to believe that but it's true

Humidity was unheard of once here in Melbourne being so far south with sea breezes to ease the summer heat and fresh storms rolling in from the west all time, the last 10 years have seen many days in the 80s and 90 % at times 100% humidity, people are even growing some far northern rainforest style palms here easier,never could do that not so long back. That type of climate change happened fast down here I think it came with the Elnino pattern.

[Andre]

Maybe its meant to be? We as modern humans dont follow our instincts as much we tend to out think ourselves, we think out alternatives to what should come natural and we are happy to pay later on, like later on wont exist.
Its interesting at the least. We sure wont die from boredom.

I'm not convinced that we have any instincts left save fight or flight. Our direction as a species looks learned to me and also as individuals.

Yeah. The Im alright Jack syndrome.Most who are doing above average in a system wont want any changes, they'll pay for the continuance on each end and fight for it and its leaders views to the end.

[Gandalf]

What a peculiar argument, 'We should ignore global warming as it might not be us and furthermore I don't want to live like the people from 300 years ago'. Bahaha, Kabong indeed! And the worlds goes to......and the Klitschko hugging too.

[El Kabong]

What a peculiar argument, 'We should ignore global warming as it might not be us and furthermore I don't want to live like the people from 300 years ago'. Bahaha, Kabong indeed! And the worlds goes to......and the Klitschko hugging too.

Always with the disregarding "What a peculiar argument" like you're floating above all humanity. Let me tell you something "teacher" 15 years 0 warming.....none, nil, nada, zilch....and what's best about that is these precious "scientists" who are paid to find proof of Anthropogenic Global Warming, can't explain it, they even LAMENT the fact there has been no warming for that long because it shows the flaws of their models and of their studies.

You want to bang the drums about the studies and then you want to avoid the REALITY of the situation. Odd another person in academia avoiding reality.....just a bunch of pussies in mortarboards

[Beanz]

Their is nothing 'precious' about scientists just because you disagree with them Lyle. Stop for a moment and take a breath. Then when you have stopped coughing try and imagine a world where you are not the uppermost authority on every subject and winning is not everything.

[Gandalf]

What a peculiar argument, 'We should ignore global warming as it might not be us and furthermore I don't want to live like the people from 300 years ago'. Bahaha, Kabong indeed! And the worlds goes to......and the Klitschko hugging too.

Always with the disregarding "What a peculiar argument" like you're floating above all humanity. Let me tell you something "teacher" 15 years 0 warming.....none, nil, nada, zilch....and what's best about that is these precious "scientists" who are paid to find proof of Anthropogenic Global Warming, can't explain it, they even LAMENT the fact there has been no warming for that long because it shows the flaws of their models and of their studies.

You want to bang the drums about the studies and then you want to avoid the REALITY of the situation. Odd another person in academia avoiding reality.....just a bunch of pussies in mortarboards

Or isn't it more likely that your argument is in fact just peculiar and it is you who are expressing the view that your opinion counts for more than those of most scientists and potentially the future of the rest of humanity.

I also see the traditional and useless argument of Lyle attacking teachers and furthermore scientists as supposedly they are not man enough. I can only assume that he is jealous being someone who recieves less than a week of vacation per year in one of the most labour unfriendly countries in the world, whilst I spend 5 months a year doing unmanly things and generally idling about.

Now what my profession has to do with this argument is clearly anyones guess, but Lyle thinks it is important, and as we know Lyle doesn't think he can be wrong about anything. What an absurd little man he is.

The only person denying reality is Lyle himself. A person with cancer can be in remission and it will come back doubly so and kill them later on. That is why a person with a history of cancer gets checked more frequently than someone who has never had it. Lyle advocates a slight case of remission as being evidence that we should ignore it and just suffer the later consequences. Of course, Lyle the witch doctor knows far more than all the doctors of the world.

[VictorCharlie]

Or isn't it more likely that your argument is in fact just peculiar and it is you who are expressing the view that your opinion counts for more than those of most scientists and potentially the future of the rest of humanity.

For someone that rails against religion, I find your take on this pretty amusing. You are one of the boards premiere skeptics but on this you question nothing. The Earth has warmed and cooled multiple times w/o any help from man. The only science that is settled is that the Earth has been warming since the last ice age and that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. The relationship between man-made emissions and the most recent warming trend is still largely not understood. If 98% of all my predictive analysis on a topic was wrong, you, me and everyone else would come to a natural conclusion that my basic understanding of the topic was flawed. For some reason AGW doesn't get this kind of treatment despite the entire climatology discipline scratching their head about the last 15 years and all their models being utter failures. Once science is politicized the way "climate change" has been it stops being about data and empirical evidence and starts being about a zero-sum game. To work in my own quote, Mark Twain once said "It is easier to fool someone than convince them they were fooled." Keep up the end of the world fear mongering though, W and Obama would be proud.

[Andre]

Global warming is not a good name for it. Probably be much more productive to call it 'climate change' as in the climate that was once north has moved even further south, south of the equator. Same happening to the far north too I hear.