Wlad Klitschko is a disgrace....and so is that Ref.

[Tam Seddon]

Hahaha Tyson calling them both big stiff idiots, so funny!

[Mr140]

Been a lot of guys that are big like Wlad over the years but they never amounted to much i say he is pretty skilled also don't think this division is as poor as people think. With out the Brothers i think fights be more competitive and people would think division was better. Also take away Ali speed or Foreman's power and they would not be shit either size is the same way dude its a gift like speed and power is. Well see what happens when he is gone i mean the guy is like 37 now not sure how long he will go for.

[erics44]

Been a lot of guys that are big like Wlad over the years but they never amounted to much i say he is pretty skilled also don't think this division is as poor as people think. With out the Brothers i think fights be more competitive and people would think division was better. Also take away Ali speed or Foreman's power and they would not be shit either size is the same way dude its a gift like speed and power is. Well see what happens when he is gone i mean the guy is like 37 now not sure how long he will go for.

i have no quarms with vitalis fighting style

and i agree, without them the division would look better

But wlad is still champ and still dominates because of his clinching, so if wlad fought within the rules theres a lot more chance of him being in competative fights and we would have a better HW division

i kind of agree with chisora, build some sort of HW tournament away from germany, get these fighters earning the type of money that would draw the wlad away from him comforts and his ref, i think within a couple of fights he would be beaten

i know its a pipe dream and would never happen

[El Kabong]

i have no quarms with vitalis fighting style

and i agree, without them the division would look better

But wlad is still champ and still dominates because of his clinching, so if wlad fought within the rules theres a lot more chance of him being in competative fights and we would have a better HW division

i kind of agree with chisora, build some sort of HW tournament away from germany, get these fighters earning the type of money that would draw the wlad away from him comforts and his ref, i think within a couple of fights he would be beaten

i know its a pipe dream and would never happen

What the frosty fuck is a "quarm"?

[Spicoli]

All fighters hold. Vary few turn into a complete drunken drape ape by choice. It's even worse when you know he could legitimately hurt him badly and land clean KDs as early as the 3rd.

[Fenster]

If his size wasn't a major advantage why did he spend half the fight hanging off Povetkins back? His size means he can get away with constant fouls. A size advantage is not comparable with speed or power. Especially when you consider all divisions.

[Mr140]

Yea but this is not any other division fenster it is hw division size is like speed or power. Last night was bad but most of the time Wald does not hold as much and just jabs his way to victory. I mean hw are different because there is no limit and pretty much not many old timers would have pray in this shit division. Meaning most fighters from the 60's back would have a problem today because of the size. Also eric Wlad completely out boxed Haye with not much clinching and he is pretty much best opponent for Wald. Who are these people that are going to beat him i am just wondering keep saying he would lose i don't think so at all see no proof of it. I mean he clinches at times in his fights but most of them just kinda backs off and jabs away and knocks them out, it seems now he really just does not care and above the rest to much for someone to come in and change it up and really make a fight out of it.

[erics44]

Yea but this is not any other division fenster it is hw division size is like speed or power. Last night was bad but most of the time Wald does not hold as much and just jabs his way to victory. I mean hw are different because there is no limit and pretty much not many old timers would have pray in this shit division. Meaning most fighters from the 60's back would have a problem today because of the size. Also eric Wlad completely out boxed Haye with not much cliching and he is pretty much best test for Wald. Who are these people that are going to beat me i am just wondering keep saying he would lose i don't think so at all see no proof of it. I mean he clinches at times in his fights but most of them just kinda backs off and jabs away and knocks them out, it seems now he really just does not care and above the rest to much for someone to come in and change it up and really make a fight out of it.

it doesn't matter if he jabs more than he holds, holding isn't in the rules

watch wlads last 10 fights, see if you can find 1 fight where he holds less than 5 times in any one round

that means in his last 10 fights he was jabbing a lot perhaps but he also should have been DQd by round 2 in every one of them

mate, you seem quite reasonable but you are obviously happy with what happened on saturday night, but the one fact in all this is wlads whole strategy is based on holding which is against the rules

take the holding out of his game and its very possible, in fact very probably, he wouldn't be the HW champ anymore

his reign is a farce

[Mr140]

No one has ever been dqed from my knowledge for holding though eric hardly even points are taken. I mean it even says may result in getting a point taken away in rules if you read them. Holding is a part of boxing dude its been in ever fight i have seen last night was bad night but come on last 10 aren't bad.

[Fenster]

No one has ever been dqed from my knowledge for holding though eric hardly even points are taken. I mean it even says may result in getting a point taken away in rules if you read them. Holding is a part of boxing dude its been in ever fight i have seen last night was bad night but come on last 10 aren't bad.

Mills Lane DQ'd Akinwande against Lewis for constant holding. It was shocking. Nearly as bad as Wlad's

[Beanflicker]

it doesn't matter if he jabs more than he holds, holding isn't in the rules

Yeah but lets be real here, clinching is a HUGE part of boxing. In fact, there have been countless fighters throughout history who have been BASHED because they didn't know how to properly clinch and tie up an opponent when they needed to (Tommy Hearns springs to mind).

I'm not trying to defend Wlad's excessive holding, because it was just that: excessive. But he didn't do anything I haven't seen other world class vets like Floyd, BHop, Ali, ect doing before.

Also, I don't know why people are letting Povetkin skate on this. He was initiating plenty of holding in the mid and later rounds as he got tired.

[El Kabong]

I see none of the people yammering on about how important RULES are giving Anthony Joshua any grief over his holding and hitting


So what's the deal fellas, do you not care because he's British

[Violent Demise]

I find it pretty damn funny how a lot of the muthafukkas complaining about Wlad's holding are the same muthafukkas who use to suck Ricky Hatton's dick and never complained about his holding

[Beanz]

I find it pretty damn funny how a lot of the muthafukkas complaining about Wlad's holding are the same muthafukkas who use to suck Ricky Hatton's dick and never complained about his holding

I find it pretty funny that you think putting a handful of cotton wool into your mouth makes you the Godfather, but we all know that your much more like a hamster stuck on the same little plastic wheel than Marlon Brando. If Ricky Hatton has so much in common with Wlad then why are you not bitching about Wlad like you do Hatton ? You are comparing apples and oranges, suck on that Padrino.

[Violent Demise]

I find it pretty damn funny how a lot of the muthafukkas complaining about Wlad's holding are the same muthafukkas who use to suck Ricky Hatton's dick and never complained about his holding

I find it pretty funny that you think putting a handful of cotton wool into your mouth makes you the Godfather, but we all know that your much more like a hamster stuck on the same little plastic wheel than Marlon Brando. If Ricky Hatton has so much in common with Wlad then why are you not bitching about Wlad like you do Hatton ? You are comparing apples and oranges, suck on that Padrino.

Wlad doesn't get knocked the fuck out in bars by bouncers. They have very little in common. Just pointing out the hypocrisy is some of these muthafukkin posters.