At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust

[Beanz]

Are there ANY real role models in boxing? I'll take a well educated, articulate gentleman who occasionally holds and wrestles way too much over the usual woman beating, drug abusing, violent thugs that boxing attracts.

That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.

[El Kabong]

That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.

Lennox Lewis vs Michael Grant......your thoughts?

[Beanz]

That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.

Lennox Lewis vs Michael Grant......your thoughts?

Lennox Lewis is not a role model. He was a far better, more entertaining and braver boxer than Wlad though.

[El Kabong]

Lennox Lewis is not a role model. He was a far better, more entertaining and braver boxer than Wlad though.

Erroneous.....DID HE BOX WITHIN THE RULES


SURVEY SAYS NO


But as he didn't get called on it, I don't begrudge him his success....but YOU you DO begrudge Wlad his success and that's wrong.

[Freedom]

Plenty of hate for Wlad in these forums, but people should keep this in mind:

Wladimir never bit off his opponent's ear and he never raped a woman like Mike Tyson.

He never deliberately headbutts like Evander Holyfield, Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins.

He was never a pimp who assaulted underage girls like Adonis Stevenson.

He's never spit in another boxer's face like Dereck Chisora.

He never threw a beautiful woman off a balcony like Carlos Monzon.

He never thrown fights like Jake LaMotta.

He never murdered his beautiful young wife like Edwin Valero.

He never beat up his woman to bring on a miscarriage like Sugar Ray Robinson.

He's never assaulted a hooker like Deontay Wilder.

He never terrorized his wife and children like Riddick Bowe.

He never captured a stripper and made her a s*x slave like Ike Ibeabuchi.

He's never performed cunnilingus on a stripper in a nightclub like Adrien Broner.

He's never been a crack head like Oliver McCall, nor a heroin addict like Sonny Liston.

[Andre]

Plenty of hate for Wlad in these forums, but people should keep this in mind:

Wladimir never bit off his opponent's ear and he never raped a woman like Mike Tyson.

He never deliberately headbutts like Evander Holyfield, Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins.

He was never a pimp who assaulted underage girls like Adonis Stevenson.

He's never spit in another boxer's face like Dereck Chisora.

He never threw a beautiful woman off a balcony like Carlos Monzon.

He never thrown fights like Jake LaMotta.

He never murdered his beautiful young wife like Edwin Valero.

He never beat up his woman to bring on a miscarriage like Sugar Ray Robinson.

He's never assaulted a hooker like Deontay Wilder.

He never terrorized his wife and children like Riddick Bowe.

He never captured a stripper and made her a s*x slave like Ike Ibeabuchi.

He's never performed cunnilingus on a stripper in a nightclub like Adrien Broner.

He's never been a crack head like Oliver McCall, nor a heroin addict like Sonny Liston.

He's never pointed out any bad personal traits in other boxers either.

[armin]

I really think the ref did a shit job, but wlad is no different than any boxer in that hey hell do what he can to win...I do find it a bit odd though that so many posters are hating on wlad for holding, yet a certain goldenboy by the name of hatton held just as much in his fight against urango....not saying I liked wlads performance it was shit, he should have had pts deducted way before the tenth,but it was the easiest path to victory. the blame is on the ref wlad did his job the ref didn't. Also think it really hurts wlad not having manny yelling at him between rounds imploring him to knock the guy out. As for the question at hand as far as role models go in regards for Athletes ya can't ask for a better one than wlad.

[erics44]

Plenty of hate for Wlad in these forums, but people should keep this in mind:

Wladimir never bit off his opponent's ear and he never raped a woman like Mike Tyson.

He never deliberately headbutts like Evander Holyfield, Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins.

He was never a pimp who assaulted underage girls like Adonis Stevenson.

He's never spit in another boxer's face like Dereck Chisora.

He never threw a beautiful woman off a balcony like Carlos Monzon.

He never thrown fights like Jake LaMotta.

He never murdered his beautiful young wife like Edwin Valero.

He never beat up his woman to bring on a miscarriage like Sugar Ray Robinson.

He's never assaulted a hooker like Deontay Wilder.

He never terrorized his wife and children like Riddick Bowe.

He never captured a stripper and made her a s*x slave like Ike Ibeabuchi.

He's never performed cunnilingus on a stripper in a nightclub like Adrien Broner.

He's never been a crack head like Oliver McCall, nor a heroin addict like Sonny Liston.

right he must be a role model then


mwahhhhab aha haahhaha ahhaahhaha ha haahhahahah

[erics44]

I am still stunned that people are still defending him after Saturday night

people are saying lots of boxers break the rules

this is true, but the worst rule breaking in history is only a fraction of the rule breaking that was seen on Saturday night

that is excluding wlads other fights of course

[Hulk]

Plenty of hate for Wlad in these forums, but people should keep this in mind:

Wladimir never bit off his opponent's ear and he never raped a woman like Mike Tyson.

He never deliberately headbutts like Evander Holyfield, Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins.

He was never a pimp who assaulted underage girls like Adonis Stevenson.

He's never spit in another boxer's face like Dereck Chisora.

He never threw a beautiful woman off a balcony like Carlos Monzon.

He never thrown fights like Jake LaMotta.

He never murdered his beautiful young wife like Edwin Valero.

He never beat up his woman to bring on a miscarriage like Sugar Ray Robinson.

He's never assaulted a hooker like Deontay Wilder.

He never terrorized his wife and children like Riddick Bowe.

He never captured a stripper and made her a s*x slave like Ike Ibeabuchi.

He's never performed cunnilingus on a stripper in a nightclub like Adrien Broner.

He's never been a crack head like Oliver McCall, nor a heroin addict like Sonny Liston.

He's probably never eaten an ostrich burger or danced with the devil in the pale moon light either.

[Nameless]

That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.

Lennox Lewis vs Michael Grant......your thoughts?

Lennox Lewis is not a role model. He was a far better, more entertaining and braver boxer than Wlad though.

Well... Lewis was pretty much a "Grab and jab" guy himself. I've rarely seen him bring excitement to the table. Not more than Wlad and if so, really not more significantly.

[Beanflicker]

That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.

Once again, I'll say that excessive holding in an occasional fight is a minor offense compared to the standard behaviour we've seen from other boxers.

If Wlad can't be a role model, I'd be interested in hearing who you think is a role model in boxing?

[Silkeyjoe]

That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.

Once again, I'll say that excessive holding in an occasional fight is a minor offense compared to the standard behaviour we've seen from other boxers.

If Wlad can't be a role model, I'd be interested in hearing who you think is a role model in boxing?

Katie Taylor, Barry McGuigan, Scott Quigg, GGG, Mikell Kesseller, Vitali, Pacman. The list goes on. A lot of good role models in boxing.

[Beanflicker]

Pacman

You mean the guy who's had criminal complaints filed by his government against him for tax fraud?

And Vitali? The guy who got busted for steroids and thrown off the Ukrainian olympic team?

[TitoFan]

Simple, really.

• Those who are constantly ragging on Wlad for everything he does.... AND bitched about the fight..... are haters.
• Those who have given Wlad his just due over the years..... BUT bitched about the fight..... are NOT haters.
• Those who can see no wrong in anything Wlad does.... EVER.... and saw nothing wrong with the fight...... have serious blinders on.

Me.... I was firmly in the first group, but was working my way toward the 2nd group.
Verdict?
Yeah..... well, nobody's perfect.