At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust

[Andre]

Plenty of hate for Wlad in these forums, but people should keep this in mind:

Wladimir never bit off his opponent's ear and he never raped a woman like Mike Tyson.

He never deliberately headbutts like Evander Holyfield, Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins.

He was never a pimp who assaulted underage girls like Adonis Stevenson.

He's never spit in another boxer's face like Dereck Chisora.

He never threw a beautiful woman off a balcony like Carlos Monzon.

He never thrown fights like Jake LaMotta.

He never murdered his beautiful young wife like Edwin Valero.

He never beat up his woman to bring on a miscarriage like Sugar Ray Robinson.

He's never assaulted a hooker like Deontay Wilder.

He never terrorized his wife and children like Riddick Bowe.

He never captured a stripper and made her a s*x slave like Ike Ibeabuchi.

He's never performed cunnilingus on a stripper in a nightclub like Adrien Broner.

He's never been a crack head like Oliver McCall, nor a heroin addict like Sonny Liston.

He's never pointed out any bad personal traits in other boxers either.

[Dia bando]

Lyle you need to take the rose tinted glasses off Bud, he was truly terrible holding hitting
it was like watch the second coming, Hopkins I no you think the Klits are the dogs bollocks,!
No wonder HW boxing is shit, about as entertaining as a sick-bag, the sooner they retire the
better.

[Beanflicker]

That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.

Once again, I'll say that excessive holding in an occasional fight is a minor offense compared to the standard behaviour we've seen from other boxers.

If Wlad can't be a role model, I'd be interested in hearing who you think is a role model in boxing?

[El Kabong]

I certainly aint a Wlad hater but u cant deny that the ref was shocking in that fight. Wlad was jumping in from a distance just to lean on Povetkin.

Agree Joshuas holding and hitting was filthy. Ill give him the benefit of the doubt that it was his debut.

Calling a foul is up to the discretion of a referee. If he's not calling it then it's not happening.

I think one of the reasons the holding Wlad was doing wasn't called is that it isn't a kind of foul that further endangers the life of a fighter. It's not like a rabbit punch, a low blow, headbutt, or following through with an elbow.

I don't fault Joshua for holding and hitting at all...when you want to do damage to someone you'll ATTEMPT anything, he corrected himself after the warning.

[Silkeyjoe]

That misses the point. Boxing like life is populated by all sorts those who have turned their lives around and those beyond redemption. I was merely pointing out the abject hypocrisy of praising somebody for behaving well outside of their day job whilst ignoring the rules at work. In a job that is carried out in public in front of millions for millions it is not very respectable to act like a coward and a cheat when you already have everything tipping the balance in your favour. He does not have to be a role model but let's not pretend that he is.

Once again, I'll say that excessive holding in an occasional fight is a minor offense compared to the standard behaviour we've seen from other boxers.

If Wlad can't be a role model, I'd be interested in hearing who you think is a role model in boxing?

Katie Taylor, Barry McGuigan, Scott Quigg, GGG, Mikell Kesseller, Vitali, Pacman. The list goes on. A lot of good role models in boxing.

[Silkeyjoe]

I certainly aint a Wlad hater but u cant deny that the ref was shocking in that fight. Wlad was jumping in from a distance just to lean on Povetkin.

Agree Joshuas holding and hitting was filthy. Ill give him the benefit of the doubt that it was his debut.

Calling a foul is up to the discretion of a referee. If he's not calling it then it's not happening.

I think one of the reasons the holding Wlad was doing wasn't called is that it isn't a kind of foul that further endangers the life of a fighter. It's not like a rabbit punch, a low blow, headbutt, or following through with an elbow.

Yes but it drains your opponent. Wlad hand picks the refs that don't call that type of fouls. I like Wlad, but I think if he made half an effort to entertain fans he could go down as one of the greatest. After 7 rounds Povetkin was gone yet he still refused to throw more then 2 punches at a time and insisted on holding.

[Beanflicker]

Pacman

You mean the guy who's had criminal complaints filed by his government against him for tax fraud?

And Vitali? The guy who got busted for steroids and thrown off the Ukrainian olympic team?

[TitoFan]

Simple, really.

• Those who are constantly ragging on Wlad for everything he does.... AND bitched about the fight..... are haters.
• Those who have given Wlad his just due over the years..... BUT bitched about the fight..... are NOT haters.
• Those who can see no wrong in anything Wlad does.... EVER.... and saw nothing wrong with the fight...... have serious blinders on.

Me.... I was firmly in the first group, but was working my way toward the 2nd group.
Verdict?
Yeah..... well, nobody's perfect.

[armin]

I really think the ref did a shit job, but wlad is no different than any boxer in that hey hell do what he can to win...I do find it a bit odd though that so many posters are hating on wlad for holding, yet a certain goldenboy by the name of hatton held just as much in his fight against urango....not saying I liked wlads performance it was shit, he should have had pts deducted way before the tenth,but it was the easiest path to victory. the blame is on the ref wlad did his job the ref didn't. Also think it really hurts wlad not having manny yelling at him between rounds imploring him to knock the guy out. As for the question at hand as far as role models go in regards for Athletes ya can't ask for a better one than wlad.

[IamInuit]

Hindsight is truly 20/20.

I have actually re-watched the thing 3 more times and then searched for a clinic dealing in masochism in the yellow pages. Just an ugly ass fight. I even slowed it down to a crawl and then singled out each man.

So now I’m going to have to retract a good portion of my criticism of Wlad and dish it out to Povetkin. He’s as much responsible for that mess as Wlad is. He was trying to come in under the jab bent over and then lifting up the back of his head. Like using his head as a counter if he missed the inside hook. He used his head much like Holyfield in that regard. Much of Wlads grabbing was a direct result of that tactic and the fact that he can’t fight off the back foot.

I’ve taken some cheap shots at Wlad by comparing him to the likes of Willard and Carnera and that’s also unfair. He would destroy both of those clowns. Frustration I suppose over a lame division that once was a historical main stay. Lamenting I guess past eras that I grew up on.

[brocktonblockbust]

Simple, really.

• Those who are constantly ragging on Wlad for everything he does.... AND bitched about the fight..... are haters.
• Those who have given Wlad his just due over the years..... BUT bitched about the fight..... are NOT haters.
• Those who can see no wrong in anything Wlad does.... EVER.... and saw nothing wrong with the fight...... have serious blinders on.

Me.... I was firmly in the first group, but was working my way toward the 2nd group.
Verdict?
Yeah..... well, nobody's perfect.

haha what about the Borriqua ref Tito? Guy was seriously off the hook bro. Like I said we're bringin' in a Goombah to ref the next Klit fight.

[erics44]

Plenty of hate for Wlad in these forums, but people should keep this in mind:

Wladimir never bit off his opponent's ear and he never raped a woman like Mike Tyson.

He never deliberately headbutts like Evander Holyfield, Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins.

He was never a pimp who assaulted underage girls like Adonis Stevenson.

He's never spit in another boxer's face like Dereck Chisora.

He never threw a beautiful woman off a balcony like Carlos Monzon.

He never thrown fights like Jake LaMotta.

He never murdered his beautiful young wife like Edwin Valero.

He never beat up his woman to bring on a miscarriage like Sugar Ray Robinson.

He's never assaulted a hooker like Deontay Wilder.

He never terrorized his wife and children like Riddick Bowe.

He never captured a stripper and made her a s*x slave like Ike Ibeabuchi.

He's never performed cunnilingus on a stripper in a nightclub like Adrien Broner.

He's never been a crack head like Oliver McCall, nor a heroin addict like Sonny Liston.

right he must be a role model then


mwahhhhab aha haahhaha ahhaahhaha ha haahhahahah

[erics44]

I am still stunned that people are still defending him after Saturday night

people are saying lots of boxers break the rules

this is true, but the worst rule breaking in history is only a fraction of the rule breaking that was seen on Saturday night

that is excluding wlads other fights of course

[CFH]

Saturday has proved once and for all that the dumb idea that Wlad is somehow a great role model for the sport of boxing is a crock of sh*t. He is famous for his day job. Whilst at work he ignores the rules, displays no respect for the integrity of the sport and pushes the idea of gamesmanship right out of the envelope. That is on top of the krap that he and his brother pull in paying their opponents derisory sums etc. Vitali is nowhere near as smug as Wlad but the pair are pretty insufferable and fast destroying the glamour division.

He is a great ambassador for the sport everywhere but in the ring. And to be fair, this past weekend was the worst I have ever seen him.

[CFH]

Wait, Adonis Stevenson was a pimp?