At least the "Wlad Klitschko is a good role model" myth has bit the dust

[IamInuit]

Wait, Adonis Stevenson was a pimp?

He did jail time under sex trade laws. He grew up in Haiti living in a box.

[Gandalf]

Greenbeanz is right, I actually sat down yesterday to watch this just to see if it was as bad as people have said it was appalling. He would throw a single punch and just run in to hug. What on earth is that and again and again again. That is NOT a great tactician, it is a dirty, scared to be hit cheat.

It is ridiculous to bring up personal lives too when it is boxing people are talking about. So, you would happily choose to watch a fighter who breaks all the rules just beause he is relatively clean outside the ring? Surely that is irrelevant to what you are watching which is a fight with its obvious rules and conditions. People pay to be ringside, people typically pay to see these fights on TV, they deserve to see a performance within the rules. If you don't get that then you should have a refund.

Also what someone does in their private life is their concern and if it is innappropriate then society will deal with them. It has nothing to do with following the rules in the ring which most fighters appear to do. Nobody hugs and holds like Wladimir Klitschko and he does it enough so that he needs to be warned, docked, docked again and then disqualified.

As I said in another thread if people are happy watching that shite, then good for them. But you don't need to watch his fights and should certainly never pay to watch them.

Tyson is the most exceptional case in that he bit an ear, but he was banned and justly so. You cannot do that. However, what he did privately is none of our business. It was his own career to ruin.

[Freedom]

Wait, Adonis Stevenson was a pimp?

Boxer Adonis Stevenson admits criminal past after years of suspicion

[Hulk]

Plenty of hate for Wlad in these forums, but people should keep this in mind:

Wladimir never bit off his opponent's ear and he never raped a woman like Mike Tyson.

He never deliberately headbutts like Evander Holyfield, Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins.

He was never a pimp who assaulted underage girls like Adonis Stevenson.

He's never spit in another boxer's face like Dereck Chisora.

He never threw a beautiful woman off a balcony like Carlos Monzon.

He never thrown fights like Jake LaMotta.

He never murdered his beautiful young wife like Edwin Valero.

He never beat up his woman to bring on a miscarriage like Sugar Ray Robinson.

He's never assaulted a hooker like Deontay Wilder.

He never terrorized his wife and children like Riddick Bowe.

He never captured a stripper and made her a s*x slave like Ike Ibeabuchi.

He's never performed cunnilingus on a stripper in a nightclub like Adrien Broner.

He's never been a crack head like Oliver McCall, nor a heroin addict like Sonny Liston.

He's probably never eaten an ostrich burger or danced with the devil in the pale moon light either.

[erics44]

Saturday has proved once and for all that the dumb idea that Wlad is somehow a great role model for the sport of boxing is a crock of sh*t. He is famous for his day job. Whilst at work he ignores the rules, displays no respect for the integrity of the sport and pushes the idea of gamesmanship right out of the envelope. That is on top of the krap that he and his brother pull in paying their opponents derisory sums etc. Vitali is nowhere near as smug as Wlad but the pair are pretty insufferable and fast destroying the glamour division.

He is a great ambassador for the sport everywhere but in the ring. And to be fair, this past weekend was the worst I have ever seen him.

i dont think i agree with this, the lop sided contracts and the way opponents are treated

all the advantages prepared before the fight, the lengthy rematch clauses signed

he's criminal to the sport inside and outside the ring, ok hes never been a pedo, doesnt make him a role model

[Beanz]

"He is a great ambassador for the sport everywhere but in the ring"


Hmmmm.

[Beanflicker]

He's a great role model in the ring IMO, because he teaches the most important thing about the sweet science: HIT AND NOT GET HIT. Anyone who goes in there slugging and taking 5 punches to give 1 should not be looked up to. It's a fool's game!

[El Kabong]

Listen to Riddick Bowe talk....then when Wlad is his age listen to him.....there's a benefit to not allowing yourself to get unnecessarily hit in the head. Hell look at Lamon Brewster, he has damn near lost an eye due to how he fought.

[Silkeyjoe]

Pacman

You mean the guy who's had criminal complaints filed by his government against him for tax fraud?

And Vitali? The guy who got busted for steroids and thrown off the Ukrainian olympic team?

Hes loved in his country - just like Nelson Mandela

[erics44]

Listen to Riddick Bowe talk....then when Wlad is his age listen to him.....there's a benefit to not allowing yourself to get unnecessarily hit in the head. Hell look at Lamon Brewster, he has damn near lost an eye due to how he fought.

best to cheat and foul then eh?

over and over and over and over and over and.................................

[Gandalf]

So therefore, invest your money and stop taking the people for being mugs. You know the rules and if you cannot handle it, then get out. It isn't any skill to throw a punch and then fondle another man repeatedly. It is against the rules.

Floyd throws only 30 punches a round, but he doesn't initiate 15 clinches per round. Wlad does this in every fight, only this time it was a bit more blatant. If you could do your job and get away with working 15 minutes of every hour, you would. However, you should lose the job or find something you can actually do well.

Wlad isn't a boxer. He is a time killer, just burning up time in clinches. He is the labourer who smokes 2 cigarettes in an hours work and misses a day every other day. He is only asked to do 12 rounds twice a year and most of it is fondling the other guy.

It is a lazy ethic and he needs to be called to the office, warned and then dismissed as he is simply not able to do the job properly.

[ninjaspy3]

To be fair to Wlad, until this recent fight I was only mildly bothered by the holding. I think it was at the beginning of the rematch against Sam Peter where he started the first few rounds clinching. After that he eased up. Against Haye he only clinched a little but it helped that Haye stayed away from Wlad as much as he could.

I think Wlads problem is he doesn't want to or can't in fight. So he just clinches. Povetkin was hoping to take the fight to the inside.
Oops.
Looks like if any small fighters hope to fight Wlad, they better have a miracle because there will be no infighting if Wlad has any say in it.

[ninjaspy3]

Hell,
even a prime Mike Tyson couldn't break through Wlads solid clinch defense. Lol

[Spicoli]

Listen to Riddick Bowe talk....then when Wlad is his age listen to him.....there's a benefit to not allowing yourself to get unnecessarily hit in the head. Hell look at Lamon Brewster, he has damn near lost an eye due to how he fought.

Did you ever listen to Bowe very early on his career, lets just say the deck was stacked. Wlad can always be a politician. They make great money for being asleep at the wheel too

[El Kabong]

Listen to Riddick Bowe talk....then when Wlad is his age listen to him.....there's a benefit to not allowing yourself to get unnecessarily hit in the head. Hell look at Lamon Brewster, he has damn near lost an eye due to how he fought.

best to cheat and foul then eh?

over and over and over and over and over and.................................

Get it through your thick ginger head....IF THE REF DOESN'T CALL IT, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN....TWAT!