Trinidad, DLH, and Calzaghe likely to be inducted into HOF in 2014

[p4pking]

Yea but I mean the other way. Say they have been retired much longer, are they always still eligible? Just strikes me on any given year they may have more deserving guys from years ago who were overlooked, but I don't know enough about it.

[IamInuit]

Yea but I mean the other way. Say they have been retired much longer, are they always still eligible? Just strikes me on any given year they may have more deserving guys from years ago who were overlooked, but I don't know enough about it.

There is no statute of limitations per say but many who deserved to be in by now will not get in and 3 new names are added to the list each year to replace those that get in. They should change the modern day beginning at 1943 to 1970 or something. Some guys have been ignored for decades. Hell even Eubank and Benn have been eligible for over a 10 years and guys like Pintor and Hernandez more the 15.

[brocktonblockbust]

Ricky Hatton all the way, there is a brave fighter who traveled and fought the best. Will always love and respect Ricky Hatton. A true fighter, brave and willing to expand his horizons.

[IamInuit]

Ricky Hatton all the way, there is a brave fighter who traveled and fought the best. Will always love and respect Ricky Hatton. A true fighter, brave and willing to expand his horizons.

Lots of hall of famers never left their home turf for tons of reasons.

[powerpuncher]

there is always a debate on how good calzaghe actually was. i always say that he was a good, not great fighter. he had a few solid wins but that was it. really kessler and bhop are his only wins that i consider good. he had a fews others like bika, eubank or reid that were alright. the rest didnt mean much. i remember negotiations being made earlier in his career for him to fight bhop, jones, and glen johnson. they all fell through. he didnt have many good fighters around him, but he could have definitely negotiated weight to make better fights than he had.

and i cant believe that anyone would ever think margarito was anywhere near a HOF fighter. he is garbage. even when he cheated he was a B class fighter.

[brocktonblockbust]

there is always a debate on how good calzaghe actually was. i always say that he was a good, not great fighter. he had a few solid wins but that was it. really kessler and bhop are his only wins that i consider good. he had a fews others like bika, eubank or reid that were alright. the rest didnt mean much. i remember negotiations being made earlier in his career for him to fight bhop, jones, and glen johnson. they all fell through. he didnt have many good fighters around him, but he could have definitely negotiated weight to make better fights than he had.

and i cant believe that anyone would ever think margarito was anywhere near a HOF fighter. he is garbage. even when he cheated he was a B class fighter.

Hop was 44 yrs old. Plus Hop won.
Eubank was well past it in 1997 as well.
RJJ had had 3 fights with Tarver already, KO'ed by Glencoffee as well. when they fought. and 40 yrs old.

[erics44]

i wasnt gonna open this thread because i saw that it was about calzaghe and the hall of fame

i knew as soon as i opened it the first thing i would read is all the reasons why calzaghe should be in

and i wasnt disapointed

mongs

[IamInuit]

there is always a debate on how good calzaghe actually was. i always say that he was a good, not great fighter. he had a few solid wins but that was it. really kessler and bhop are his only wins that i consider good. he had a fews others like bika, eubank or reid that were alright. the rest didnt mean much. i remember negotiations being made earlier in his career for him to fight bhop, jones, and glen johnson. they all fell through. he didnt have many good fighters around him, but he could have definitely negotiated weight to make better fights than he had.

and i cant believe that anyone would ever think margarito was anywhere near a HOF fighter. he is garbage. even when he cheated he was a B class fighter.

That's simply not the truth and I'm not sure why people continue to say it. There were never any negotiations made between any of those three mentioned. He was not going to come down to 160 to fight Hopkins and Jones was long gone to 175 at a time when Joe was just starting to break stride.

I also take issue with you saying Joe was not a great fighter. You seem to base this on the fact that his ledger is not full of household names. With or without fighting twenty other greats, Joe Calzaghe is still a great fighter. From a boxing standpoint he's a brilliant fighter and stand out skill wise and as I've said before you could probably count the number of guys that could have beaten him at 168 on one hand over the course of history. If that's not great then I dont know what is.

[powerpuncher]

there is always a debate on how good calzaghe actually was. i always say that he was a good, not great fighter. he had a few solid wins but that was it. really kessler and bhop are his only wins that i consider good. he had a fews others like bika, eubank or reid that were alright. the rest didnt mean much. i remember negotiations being made earlier in his career for him to fight bhop, jones, and glen johnson. they all fell through. he didnt have many good fighters around him, but he could have definitely negotiated weight to make better fights than he had.

and i cant believe that anyone would ever think margarito was anywhere near a HOF fighter. he is garbage. even when he cheated he was a B class fighter.

That's simply not the truth and I'm not sure why people continue to say it. There were never any negotiations made between any of those three mentioned. He was not going to come down to 160 to fight Hopkins and Jones was long gone to 175 at a time when Joe was just starting to break stride.

I also take issue with you saying Joe was not a great fighter. You seem to base this on the fact that his ledger is not full of household names. With or without fighting twenty other greats, Joe Calzaghe is still a great fighter. From a boxing standpoint he's a brilliant fighter and stand out skill wise and as I've said before you could probably count the number of guys that could have beaten him at 168 on one hand over the course of history. If that's not great then I dont know what is.

there were negotiations. i remember specifically all those fights being agreed to. i know that against johnson, calzaghe pulled out because of injury and then the fight never ended up happening. im thinking jones was the same sort of thing but i cant say for sure. but i know for sure there were definitely talks.

and with a weak resume, it all goes off of the eye test. and from the eye test, calzaghe never looked like a truly great fighter. ive seen him fight a lot but the only fight i thought he looked impressive in was the lacy fight which we found out later was a total bum. he had some other good wins but never looked super impressive by any means which is why i consider him very good but not great.