Kelly Pavlik RULED

[El Kabong]

Taylor beat him in the rematch, FACT

[Rantcatrat]

Taylor beat him in the rematch, FACT

At both guy's best weight, Taylor was brutally knocked out in a big upset. Fact.

[Nameless]

He had a good potential and a great attitude at the start. Then he collapsed mentally and went on vacations with his old demons only to come back with the biggest collection of ugly tattoos ever. Since then, he's wondering like a lost soul in a no man's land.

[X]

I'm sorry to hear about his problems.

However, as a fighter - while he had a decent Rocky style backstory - he was a crude fighter, strong and willing, good rhythm pressure box/puncher. Tough and committed.

He was not a skilled boxer, nor a chilling one shot hitter and he was easy to hit. That's why his fights were fun.

If he was fighting in another good decade, he would be a tough 'gatekeeper' who people would have had to beat on their way to a title shot against the champ.

A Robbie Sims, Yvonne Durrell, Gerry Quarry type.

[El Kabong]

Taylor beat him in the rematch, FACT

At both guy's best weight, Taylor was brutally knocked out in a big upset. Fact.

True, but Taylor's lifestyle (and his stamina) caught up to him much like Pavlik's did....all a matter of timing really. Imagine if they had met pre-Hopkins....that would have been a better scrap.

I've got nothing against Kelly, he was a good hardnosed fighter

[Beanflicker]

I was a huge fan of Taylor, but Pavlik beat the shit out of him.

[El Kabong]

I was a huge fan of Taylor, but Pavlik beat the shit out of him.

....in the first fight

[Beanflicker]

I don't remember the 2nd to be honest. I was a big Taylor fan and was disappointed when he lost again.