Kelly Pavlik RULED

[El Kabong]

Taylor beat him in the rematch, FACT

At both guy's best weight, Taylor was brutally knocked out in a big upset. Fact.

True, but Taylor's lifestyle (and his stamina) caught up to him much like Pavlik's did....all a matter of timing really. Imagine if they had met pre-Hopkins....that would have been a better scrap.

I've got nothing against Kelly, he was a good hardnosed fighter

[Beanflicker]

I was a huge fan of Taylor, but Pavlik beat the shit out of him.

[El Kabong]

I was a huge fan of Taylor, but Pavlik beat the shit out of him.

....in the first fight

[Beanflicker]

I don't remember the 2nd to be honest. I was a big Taylor fan and was disappointed when he lost again.