HBO - SKY SPORTS -Marquez v Bradley - SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHT CHAT THREAD

[fan johnny]

Don't see how any of you guys can call this a draw. 2 point win for Marquez is borderline slippery. I thought Bradley won quite comfortably and deserved the ud. And I take little pleasure if any in saying that.

Bradley won on points because you cant see every punch. I didn't see compubox. what happened to it?

[TitoFan]

I like and respect Marquez. But justice was served tonight.
Bradley won and that's all there is to it.

[fan johnny]

The problem with Marquez is he is a pure counter puncher and needs offense to get his game going and when facing the outside style he needs to be juiced by a cattle prod. Marquez is clearly the a better fighter, even at 40.

[beenKOed]

The problem with Marquez is he is a pure counter puncher and needs offense to get his game going and when facing the outside style he needs to be juiced by a cattle prod. Marquez is clearly the a better fighter, even at 40.

This fight was about deciding who the better fighter is TONIGHT. Bradley was clearly that fighter.

[Addicted to_boxing]

The problem with Marquez is he is a pure counter puncher and needs offense to get his game going and when facing the outside style he needs to be juiced by a cattle prod. Marquez is clearly the a better fighter, even at 40.

This fight was about deciding who the better fighter is TONIGHT. Bradley was clearly that fighter.

Really floating on your back the last few rounds ala ODLH vs Trinidad. I had it a draw, I just did not see the telling punches and dominance the hugging announcers were relaying to viewers. I would want a rematch if I were JMM. JMM obviously over looked Bradley but had him figurered out the last half of the fight. JMM is always better in rematches. JMM also displayed why is not and never will be a PPV fighter will a legion of followers. He did just enought or earn a rematch with Pac, JMM or Alexander. Money May ....... no way , no how !!!

[beenKOed]

The problem with Marquez is he is a pure counter puncher and needs offense to get his game going and when facing the outside style he needs to be juiced by a cattle prod. Marquez is clearly the a better fighter, even at 40.

This fight was about deciding who the better fighter is TONIGHT. Bradley was clearly that fighter.

Really floating on your back the last few rounds ala ODLH vs Trinidad. I had it a draw, I just did not see the telling punches and dominance the hugging announcers were relaying to viewers. I would want a rematch if I were JMM. JMM obviously over looked Bradley but had him figurered out the last half of the fight. JMM is always better in rematches. JMM also displayed why is not and never will be a PPV fighter will a legion of followers. He did just enought or earn a rematch with Pac, JMM or Alexander. Money May ....... no way , no how !!!

That's a pretty lame excuse your are trying throw at us. Don't talk about over looking anything with Nacho in your corner, besides Marquez is no idiot either. Bradley didn't seem to be loafing around when he almost had Marquez on his ass in the last round.
Marquez lost the fight because he didn't do enough, he's a counter puncher, Bradley is a slick boxer with a good sense of how the fight is going and was not giving Marquez anything to work with. Simple really, plus Bradley wanted it more. If Bradley keeps beating all of these great fighters he might become a solid PPV draw. That's my opinion, Sir.

[Gandalf]

Still 8-4 Bradley. Marquez just didn't seem to do anything for the first half of the fight and only came alive towards the end as Bradley started to slow down. It wasn't close and certainly not a Marquez win as some here are sugesting. I find that to be bad scoring really.

Marquez definitely won the later rounds and landed harder blows, but Bradley was slick and boxed his head off round after round at the start.

[Addicted to_boxing]

The problem with Marquez is he is a pure counter puncher and needs offense to get his game going and when facing the outside style he needs to be juiced by a cattle prod. Marquez is clearly the a better fighter, even at 40.

This fight was about deciding who the better fighter is TONIGHT. Bradley was clearly that fighter.

Really floating on your back the last few rounds ala ODLH vs Trinidad. I had it a draw, I just did not see the telling punches and dominance the hugging announcers were relaying to viewers. I would want a rematch if I were JMM. JMM obviously over looked Bradley but had him figurered out the last half of the fight. JMM is always better in rematches. JMM also displayed why is not and never will be a PPV fighter will a legion of followers. He did just enought or earn a rematch with Pac, JMM or Alexander. Money May ....... no way , no how !!!

That's a pretty lame excuse your are trying throw at us. Don't talk about over looking anything with Nacho in your corner, besides Marquez is no idiot either. Bradley didn't seem to be loafing around when he almost had Marquez on his ass in the last round.
Marquez lost the fight because he didn't do enough, he's a counter puncher, Bradley is a slick boxer with a good sense of how the fight is going and was not giving Marquez anything to work with. Simple really, plus Bradley wanted it more. If Bradley keeps beating all of these great fighters he might become a solid PPV draw. That's my opinion, Sir.

Beating Top Rank fighters by questionable decision, let's not ommit this big fact

[IamInuit]

Don't see how any of you guys can call this a draw. 2 point win for Marquez is borderline slippery. I thought Bradley won quite comfortably and deserved the ud. And I take little pleasure if any in saying that.

Bradley won on points because you cant see every punch. I didn't see compubox. what happened to it?

The judges cant. I see more then them from my living room with all the camera angles afforded us. No blind spots really in comparison. Most of the fight would not have been effected by those blind spots and the judges at ringside should have seen everything because of the way it was fought.

Compubox is a sad attempt to excite the broadcast and is done by technicians holding clickers with multiple buttons that dont know the difference between a shot to the junk and a jab and if they did broadcast the numbers I'd wager they would still show Bradley way ahead in both thrown and landed % pts. Marquez looked like I was hoping he would not and proved at least to me that he blew his last wad in the last Paq fight.

I hear what you are saying bud but this looked pretty cut and dry after the first 4 rounds.

I mean I had it evening up at times and trying to find way fro Marquez but Tim kind of ran away with it over the last half

[armin]

Don't see how any of you guys can call this a draw. 2 point win for Marquez is borderline slippery. I thought Bradley won quite comfortably and deserved the ud. And I take little pleasure if any in saying that.

Bradley won on points because you cant see every punch. I didn't see compubox. what happened to it?

The judges cant. I see more then them from my living room with all the camera angles afforded us. No blind spots really in comparison. Most of the fight would not have been effected by those blind spots and the judges at ringside should have seen everything because of the way it was fought.

Compubox is a sad attempt to excite the broadcast and is done by technicians holding clickers with multiple buttons that dont know the difference between a shot to the junk and a jab and if they did broadcast the numbers I'd wager they would still show Bradley way ahead in both thrown and landed % pts. Marquez looked like I was hoping he would not and proved at least to me that he blew his last wad in the last Paq fight.

I hear what you are saying bud but this looked pretty cut and dry after the first 4 rounds.

I mean I had it evening up at times and trying to find way fro Marquez but Tim kind of ran away with it over the last half

You yourself posted ya had it 6-4 bradley after the tenth, you don't think the eleventh and twelfth were marquez rounds, I thought those were the clearest rounds as bradley went to sleep, so really 6-6 should have been the conclusion on your card, no?

[Mr140]

i think Bradley clearly won it Marquez has never looked good against a fighter who is moving backward. I think people were down on Bradley because of the pac fight but he got a serious injury at the start. Still managed to win good amount around and was not blasted out like everyone said he would be. Bradley is a great fighter i think he is the most underrated guy on this form no one seems to like him for what ever reason that may be. I think he proved he is a great fighter and his resume is looking good and he is a champion at 140 and 147 he is the biggest overachiever since fucking Holyfield in my book.

[IamInuit]

Don't see how any of you guys can call this a draw. 2 point win for Marquez is borderline slippery. I thought Bradley won quite comfortably and deserved the ud. And I take little pleasure if any in saying that.

Bradley won on points because you cant see every punch. I didn't see compubox. what happened to it?

The judges cant. I see more then them from my living room with all the camera angles afforded us. No blind spots really in comparison. Most of the fight would not have been effected by those blind spots and the judges at ringside should have seen everything because of the way it was fought.

Compubox is a sad attempt to excite the broadcast and is done by technicians holding clickers with multiple buttons that dont know the difference between a shot to the junk and a jab and if they did broadcast the numbers I'd wager they would still show Bradley way ahead in both thrown and landed % pts. Marquez looked like I was hoping he would not and proved at least to me that he blew his last wad in the last Paq fight.

I hear what you are saying bud but this looked pretty cut and dry after the first 4 rounds.

I mean I had it evening up at times and trying to find way fro Marquez but Tim kind of ran away with it over the last half

You yourself posted ya had it 6-4 bradley after the tenth, you don't think the eleventh and twelfth were marquez rounds, I thought those were the clearest rounds as bradley went to sleep, so really 6-6 should have been the conclusion on your card, no?

Like I have said I leaned towards Marquez in rds that I think he kind of lost. Bias on my part. Tim coasted a bit over the last rd or 2 and still won them. Rds are 3 minutes, not 30 seconds.

[armin]

Don't see how any of you guys can call this a draw. 2 point win for Marquez is borderline slippery. I thought Bradley won quite comfortably and deserved the ud. And I take little pleasure if any in saying that.

Bradley won on points because you cant see every punch. I didn't see compubox. what happened to it?

The judges cant. I see more then them from my living room with all the camera angles afforded us. No blind spots really in comparison. Most of the fight would not have been effected by those blind spots and the judges at ringside should have seen everything because of the way it was fought.

Compubox is a sad attempt to excite the broadcast and is done by technicians holding clickers with multiple buttons that dont know the difference between a shot to the junk and a jab and if they did broadcast the numbers I'd wager they would still show Bradley way ahead in both thrown and landed % pts. Marquez looked like I was hoping he would not and proved at least to me that he blew his last wad in the last Paq fight.

I hear what you are saying bud but this looked pretty cut and dry after the first 4 rounds.

I mean I had it evening up at times and trying to find way fro Marquez but Tim kind of ran away with it over the last half

You yourself posted ya had it 6-4 bradley after the tenth, you don't think the eleventh and twelfth were marquez rounds, I thought those were the clearest rounds as bradley went to sleep, so really 6-6 should have been the conclusion on your card, no?

Like I have said I leaned towards Marquez in rds that I think he kind of lost. Bias on my part. Tim coasted a bit over the last rd or 2 and still won them. Rds are 3 minutes, not 30 seconds.

I don't see how you give the 11th to bradley he literally didnt do jack even the uber biased sky commentary had that one for marquez, and well the 12th i guess if you wana ignore everything till the last ten seconds you can give it to bradley on one big punch landed....well i guess that's the fucked up thing with boxing never any agreement...

[Beanflicker]

I thought Bradley won the fight, but I don't think it was anywhere near as cut and dry as Harold Lederman and the HBO commentators thought it was.

It was a very close fight and a case can be made for either guy.

[Beanz]

I think both commentary teams on either side of the Atlantic were way to eager to heap praise on Bradley for looking busy, and very reticent to acknowledge Marquez, even when he landed combinations. They were literally spouting nonsense like "Marquez is not landing a thing here" as he unloaded 3 or 4 shots in quick succession on action man's (G.I Joe's) ribs.
It was a close fight but I can not see how anybody could have given Bradley the first 3 and last 2 rounds and so a draw or close decision either way is understandable. Putting my completely neutral head on, Bradley just scraped a win but if any one thinks that is a dominant performance they are deluded. I have to be upfront though and admit that I just cannot abide Bradley and his mahoosive cranium to the ridiculous level that even people calling him Tim pisses me off. He should get a shot at Floyd but I can see lesser men beating him and FMJ swerving him.

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