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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.

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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    I think Groves could KO Froch let alone outbox him and have said so. That was before he threw a wobbly and left Booth though. Now I am in two minds.

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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    I think Groves could KO Froch let alone outbox him and have said so. That was before he threw a wobbly and left Booth though. Now I am in two minds.
    Yeah that has me a little worried. Any idea why they split?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.

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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.
    @Tam Seddon, making statements like this is exactly what is going to lose you our sig bet

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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.
    @Tam Seddon, making statements like this is exactly what is going to lose you our sig bet
    I've backed the cobra since the start mate and I've felt a lot more nervous about other fights than this one. I'm feeling pretty confident Froch wins this easily.

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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.
    @Tam Seddon , making statements like this is exactly what is going to lose you our sig bet
    I've backed the cobra since the start mate and I've felt a lot more nervous about other fights than this one. I'm feeling pretty confident Froch wins this easily.
    Precisely why I made the bet with you rather than anyone else. I'd guess most on here would think Froch stops him inside the distance but I think Groves will box him and take a close decision. Just little things I've seen with Groves made me confident he had the tools. I'm less confident without Adam Booth though. I'm gunna stick with my prediction but one factor that had me convinced was how well Booth knows Carl Froch. I think parting company was a stupid move before a fight of this magnitude.

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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.
    @Tam Seddon , making statements like this is exactly what is going to lose you our sig bet
    I've backed the cobra since the start mate and I've felt a lot more nervous about other fights than this one. I'm feeling pretty confident Froch wins this easily.
    Precisely why I made the bet with you rather than anyone else. I'd guess most on here would think Froch stops him inside the distance but I think Groves will box him and take a close decision. Just little things I've seen with Groves made me confident he had the tools. I'm less confident without Adam Booth though. I'm gunna stick with my prediction but one factor that had me convinced was how well Booth knows Carl Froch. I think parting company was a stupid move before a fight of this magnitude.
    The Booth parting was a silly move and won't help him at all , really didn't understand that at all. Groves will be up for it but I just think it's a bit too early for the step up with someone of frochs experience. Similar to Alvarez-Mayweather in ways but Froch will get the stoppage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.
    im not so sure you know

    the more i thnk about that fight the more i am thinking theres going to be an upset

    i think groves might have very good timing
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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.
    im not so sure you know

    the more i thnk about that fight the more i am thinking theres going to be an upset

    i think groves might have very good timing
    And what's your evidence of that? Froch is still peaking trust me, he's looking better in the ring each time out recently and he keeps a log of his performances in training and each training camp he's improving on all of his times. He's a sharp as ever and proved that against Bute and Kessler. Ward is the one who's on the radar for Froch, not a mandatory challenger of his IBF belt. Even Hearn didn't want this fight because he knows it's danger for Groves deep down.

    As I said before Groves should of gone for Stieglitz first and gained more experience against a higher ranked contender and got the WBO belt and he would have earned even more for a WBA/IBF\WBO unification fight and then Froch could have fought Ward for the ring mag belt too. Wish Ward still had that WBC belt and it would have been for every belt at 168.

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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.
    im not so sure you know

    the more i thnk about that fight the more i am thinking theres going to be an upset

    i think groves might have very good timing
    And what's your evidence of that? Froch is still peaking trust me, he's looking better in the ring each time out recently and he keeps a log of his performances in training and each training camp he's improving on all of his times. He's a sharp as ever and proved that against Bute and Kessler. Ward is the one who's on the radar for Froch, not a mandatory challenger of his IBF belt. Even Hearn didn't want this fight because he knows it's danger for Groves deep down.

    As I said before Groves should of gone for Stieglitz first and gained more experience against a higher ranked contender and got the WBO belt and he would have earned even more for a WBA/IBF\WBO unification fight and then Froch could have fought Ward for the ring mag belt too. Wish Ward still had that WBC belt and it would have been for every belt at 168.
    Let's not get carried away now. I think he stops Groves. Cuz he's just a better fighter. But he's been peaked. Some time ago. I wouldn't call him a declined fighter yet but the slide is coming

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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.
    im not so sure you know

    the more i thnk about that fight the more i am thinking theres going to be an upset

    i think groves might have very good timing
    And what's your evidence of that? Froch is still peaking trust me, he's looking better in the ring each time out recently and he keeps a log of his performances in training and each training camp he's improving on all of his times. He's a sharp as ever and proved that against Bute and Kessler. Ward is the one who's on the radar for Froch, not a mandatory challenger of his IBF belt. Even Hearn didn't want this fight because he knows it's danger for Groves deep down.

    As I said before Groves should of gone for Stieglitz first and gained more experience against a higher ranked contender and got the WBO belt and he would have earned even more for a WBA/IBF\WBO unification fight and then Froch could have fought Ward for the ring mag belt too. Wish Ward still had that WBC belt and it would have been for every belt at 168.
    Let's not get carried away now. I think he stops Groves. Cuz he's just a better fighter. But he's been peaked. Some time ago. I wouldn't call him a declined fighter yet but the slide is coming
    Froch wants to fight well into his 40s and as long as he stays fit anything is possible nowadays. I still believe we have a lot more to see from him. It's not like he's ever been badly hurt or anything...

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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.
    im not so sure you know

    the more i thnk about that fight the more i am thinking theres going to be an upset

    i think groves might have very good timing
    And what's your evidence of that? Froch is still peaking trust me, he's looking better in the ring each time out recently and he keeps a log of his performances in training and each training camp he's improving on all of his times. He's a sharp as ever and proved that against Bute and Kessler. Ward is the one who's on the radar for Froch, not a mandatory challenger of his IBF belt. Even Hearn didn't want this fight because he knows it's danger for Groves deep down.

    As I said before Groves should of gone for Stieglitz first and gained more experience against a higher ranked contender and got the WBO belt and he would have earned even more for a WBA/IBF\WBO unification fight and then Froch could have fought Ward for the ring mag belt too. Wish Ward still had that WBC belt and it would have been for every belt at 168.
    i dont have any evidence, its not an opinion built on science, its a hunch

    i am a froch fan, you only have to read on here on any froch thread and im the one saying hes gonna win when everyone else is saying he will lose

    having said that it isnt an opinion built on science, there is a bit of boxing thought gone into it - and here it is

    styles make fights, froch is hands down move into range and throw bombs, groves is outside and take pot shots then comes in and throw a big combination

    froch thinks he is untouchable at the minute, soon as groves pot shots start bouncing off he will get the superman feeling and try and walk through him, the groves comes in with a big hard combination when the time is right

    it is mainly a hunch tho
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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.
    im not so sure you know

    the more i thnk about that fight the more i am thinking theres going to be an upset

    i think groves might have very good timing
    And what's your evidence of that? Froch is still peaking trust me, he's looking better in the ring each time out recently and he keeps a log of his performances in training and each training camp he's improving on all of his times. He's a sharp as ever and proved that against Bute and Kessler. Ward is the one who's on the radar for Froch, not a mandatory challenger of his IBF belt. Even Hearn didn't want this fight because he knows it's danger for Groves deep down.

    As I said before Groves should of gone for Stieglitz first and gained more experience against a higher ranked contender and got the WBO belt and he would have earned even more for a WBA/IBF\WBO unification fight and then Froch could have fought Ward for the ring mag belt too. Wish Ward still had that WBC belt and it would have been for every belt at 168.
    i dont have any evidence, its not an opinion built on science, its a hunch

    i am a froch fan, you only have to read on here on any froch thread and im the one saying hes gonna win when everyone else is saying he will lose

    having said that it isnt an opinion built on science, there is a bit of boxing thought gone into it - and here it is

    styles make fights, froch is hands down move into range and throw bombs, groves is outside and take pot shots then comes in and throw a big combination

    froch thinks he is untouchable at the minute, soon as groves pot shots start bouncing off he will get the superman feeling and try and walk through him, the groves comes in with a big hard combination when the time is right

    it is mainly a hunch tho
    Groves isn't going to hurt Froch though. Look at what happened to Bute, who's IMO faster than Groves. Groves won't be able to get inside Froch to land anything because Froch will control him with the jab and bully Groves into a fight which he isn't strong though to win.

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    You heard it here first! I think Groves narrowly beats Froch by decision, Froch then hammers Degale and the saga continues.

    Not first mate. I made a sig bet with @Tam Seddon the day the fight was announced.
    And mark my words the cobra is going to beat Groves inside the distance, Froch is still hungry and an inexperienced Groves is not ready for the challenge. Inexperience at then world level is what I am talking about here and Groves I'm afraid hasn't got that yet. He should have gone down the Stieglitz route because going down the cobra route is the wrong way for Groves to win a belt.
    im not so sure you know

    the more i thnk about that fight the more i am thinking theres going to be an upset

    i think groves might have very good timing
    And what's your evidence of that? Froch is still peaking trust me, he's looking better in the ring each time out recently and he keeps a log of his performances in training and each training camp he's improving on all of his times. He's a sharp as ever and proved that against Bute and Kessler. Ward is the one who's on the radar for Froch, not a mandatory challenger of his IBF belt. Even Hearn didn't want this fight because he knows it's danger for Groves deep down.

    As I said before Groves should of gone for Stieglitz first and gained more experience against a higher ranked contender and got the WBO belt and he would have earned even more for a WBA/IBF\WBO unification fight and then Froch could have fought Ward for the ring mag belt too. Wish Ward still had that WBC belt and it would have been for every belt at 168.
    i dont have any evidence, its not an opinion built on science, its a hunch

    i am a froch fan, you only have to read on here on any froch thread and im the one saying hes gonna win when everyone else is saying he will lose

    having said that it isnt an opinion built on science, there is a bit of boxing thought gone into it - and here it is

    styles make fights, froch is hands down move into range and throw bombs, groves is outside and take pot shots then comes in and throw a big combination

    froch thinks he is untouchable at the minute, soon as groves pot shots start bouncing off he will get the superman feeling and try and walk through him, the groves comes in with a big hard combination when the time is right

    it is mainly a hunch tho
    Groves isn't going to hurt Froch though. Look at what happened to Bute, who's IMO faster than Groves. Groves won't be able to get inside Froch to land anything because Froch will control him with the jab and bully Groves into a fight which he isn't strong though to win.
    this is the superman syndrome that froch currently has

    groves more than has the power to hurt him and has the skills to stay away from a fight

    this is exactly why i am thinking it could be good timing, not because froch is on the slide, because froch sees himself as unmoveable
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