Angel Adams, 37 yrs old with 15 kids and complaining about lack of gov't assistance

[VictorCharlie]

I find your views on tipping to be mildly absurd and perhaps it is you that is
ignorant of the norms of other countries

One of us has never been to the US and one of us has lived here most of their lives, worked as a server and run a service business but its me whose views on a tip vs wage based salary in the US is absurd? I love you Miles. You bring great comedic relief to my day. We aren't talking about other countries. We are talking about the US. It is a superior system and all parties in the US approve of it. Mind your own business. It should also be noted that in the event that an employee makes less than minimum wage after tips that the employer must make up the difference.

Actually, one thing I am getting sick of is you branding around words like bigot in every thread. Yes, I am very much opposed to your political and military system, but people are just people. Some of my favourite people are American, but they don't get defensive or nationalistic and accept the faults. 'Oh, but you are from overseas and cannot comment'. On the whole I try to stay clean with you when it would be all too easy to attack your contradictions which are all too obvious and yet in every post you are using inflammatory language. I expect it of someone like Lyle, but I thought we were on more
neutral ground.

Miles, you are insulting in just about every response to me. I'm brainwashed, disgusting, my education is poor, I'm a loser b/c of my profession, I couldn't do anything else and on and on. You consistently post about the US despite never being there and proven time and again to not be well informed on it. Your postings about the US are close minded, lack objectivity and regularly results in personal attacks on people that ACTUALLY live and know the country. So yes I find your internet persona somewhat bigoted. If that hurts your feelings then tough.

Rather than respond to views that are clearly odd with an insult or 4 thrown
in for good measure, I will not respond.

Sure, just like your multiple "I'm leaving Saddos threads".

[El Kabong]

So yes I find your internet persona somewhat bigoted. If that hurts your feelings then tough.

When pray tell, has miles EVER concerned himself with the feelings of anyone he argues with? I mean if he DID concern himself with the feelings of others he certainly wouldn't personally attack other members of this site...let's be honest, I'm no angel I dish out a lot but I take my fair share of heat. I'm the only poster here with a fucking webstalker who will routinely sign up just to make 1 vile post about me and have his account deleted. But shit, I have a conscience, I feel bad when I am merciless in ripping someone apart when they didn't deserve it or earn it...I do. I have never seen that from miles, never ever. I have seen him navel gaze, and sulk, and whine about how nobody understands him like he's some 14 year old emo girl, but I haven't seen him say "You know what, calling VC a baby killer or a murderer was probably well over the line"....maybe he has, but he always comes back to calling those names.


miles, do you feel you're above reproach here? Do you feel that us mere mortals are somehow beneath you? You teach English in South Korea a place that wouldn't exist if not for the American Armed Forces....get over yourself

[Gandalf]

That is a very distorted and dishonest post, Lyle. This is why I think you are the biggest problem with this site. You have NEVER apologised for your random verbal assaults and are a coward. You randomly jump in when you think it is a good time to do so. You are a chicken with an agenda and it is personal.
I cannot reason with daft nationalists.

It has been observed by others too that I am on the end of more abuse than anyone here so it isnt just me. In your case it is very personal and you have an agenda to make me leave. You will say that nobody likes me, nobody should hear my opinion, denigrate my honest craft, use the vilest language etc.

Again you take issue with my work. Why? Reveal your work and lets compare notes. The military is too easy with its ready supply of tax payers money and known history.

I wont interact with you anymore either. You in particular are someone who should probably be banned. You get away things just because I am the target.

[VictorCharlie]

To channel Kirkland

[Gandalf]

TBH, I don't really have any problems with you, VC. I would just like you to not label me a bigot in every thread. I don't hate American people and it is something I get tired of defending myself against. You get the charge again and again, and yet considering all the revelations and degradation of recent years politically, it has been pretty much the only fall back on for some as much of what I have been saying about the bigger picture has been proven correct. On this welfare issue, we clearly disagree, but that is no problem. We are ideologically quite different. I prefer cultures where tipping is not needed and I prefer cultures that offer a competitive basic wage for their workers. It doesn't mean I am a bigot for disagreeing with the American model, it just means I disagree with that model.

The person who does bother me is, Lyle. He parades himself around beyond all bounds. In Klitschko threads he is being absurd and all the while insulting posters left right and centre. He will throw around horrid insults to people on the main boards calling them weird things like 'panty stains', how the Klits would 'bitchslap' posters who criticise the fight. He turns public threads personal with all kinds of savage personal attacks, he jumps into threads randomly just to insult you. All the while he will say that nobody likes you or wants to hear anything you say. And yet he isn't talking about himself?

He will say things like 'you are beyond all redemption'. I mean really, what have I ever done to anybody to deserve that kind of accusation? It makes me sound like Jack the sodding Ripper. And then he will throw around lies such as I can never apologise? It just isn't true as you know and others know. Walrus is a recent case in point and he received a PM in which I said sorry for being rude to him in an attack that was actually instigated by Lyle. Now where are Lyle's apologies for his arrogance, conceitedness and rudeness?

I get on with everyone here. I can be prickly and I do have my points of view, but you don't see me having to put up with this nonsense from other posters to such a degree. Lyle will constantly denigrate my line of work which is work that requires a great deal of experience and study to do well. It has become an obsession with him. I would love to see him come out here and do what I do, to survive in a different culture, to do the work well despite its obvious difficulties. Oh, you are just an English teacher...well, what the heck are you then? I'm giving young adults skills to help them in the workplace, what are you giving people?

Lyle gets a free pass to be as outrageous as he likes and to say what he wants to anyone and I am usually the target. Now if he said the stuff he says to Missy, he would be banned, but because I am an opinionated person, he can say what he wants. Everytime I log in I have to grimace at yet more insults? Most of the time he plays the dawn chorus just to snipe and be a tosser.

There is nothing wrong with having opinions, but does it have to get personal and insulting all the time? And it is all the time.

[VictorCharlie]

I thought you weren't responding to me?

I would just like you to not label me a bigot in every thread. I don't hate
American people and it is something I get tired of defending myself against.

Miles, you clearly don't see how you come across in threads. You have NEVER been here and have almost NO understanding of what Americans are like, our culture, our economy, our government etc. That being said you wade into thread after thread with an uninformed opinion and a hypercritical attitude telling us Americans how terrible and jacked up we are and if only we were as enlightened as you. You ignore the factual information that is provided on the US and dismiss the people who actually live here. If it is about US foreign policy then my often times first hand accounts of things have no bearing b/c of my profession. If it is about domestic issues then due to my cultural brainwashing and inferior education I don't really understand and shouldn't be trusted. Bigotry is defined as 1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed , belief, or opinion that differs from one's own. When it comes to your posts regarding the US I find this pretty spot on. If you don't like this adjective for your posts then maybe you should take a moment of introspection.

On this welfare issue, we clearly disagree, but that is no problem. We are
ideologically quite different. I prefer cultures where tipping is not needed and I prefer cultures that offer a competitive basic wage for their workers. It doesn't mean I am a bigot for disagreeing with the American model, it just means I disagree with that model.

Cultures don't provide comeptitive wages. Employers offer them to people with marketable skills. I prefer a culture that believes in voluntary exchange and not coercement.